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#380797 - 01/07/14 10:30 AM Smart autoarranger: when I can buy it?
ailev Offline
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Registered: 07/21/03
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I consider all today's arranger (especially TOTL) as non-contemporary. Today we should have more. E.g. computer today can creatively render scores (see examples for classical music here: http://smac2013.renconmusic.org/results/).

And sure, computer can create accompaniment on-the-fly, not predescribed by "style creators". Here you can see project of Sony that devoted to understanding of style: http://smac2013.renconmusic.org/results/. Here you can see results of this study in Reflexive VirtualBand accompaniment project (http://francoispachet.fr/virtualband/virtualband.html -- videos with explanation). Examples you can see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp8tixrPM1U for guitar with explanations and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVgXX1XkzNQ for keyboard. More available at http://www.youtube.com/user/SonyCSLParis/videos.

When I could buy true new generation (not new versions of outdated old generation with "enhanced samples") of autoarrangers? I want contemporary Smart Accompaniment Autoarranger, not 20 years old Dumb Player Autoarranger. It is boring have "better sound" only every year. Our smartphones have not only "better sounds" every year, I need same progress in autoarrangers. It is as if Yamaha, Roland, Korg and others TOTL arranger makers have only music studios and microphones, not laboratories and R&D departments. Show your style engine cleverness, not only sound engine sweet timbres!
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#380910 - 01/08/14 11:44 AM Re: Smart autoarranger: when I can buy it? [Re: ailev]
jp47 Offline
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Registered: 09/22/12
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Wow! That is something. Without having an autoarranger, some features like beat or bassline following either lw or up1 could perharps be on todays arrangers.

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#380912 - 01/08/14 11:50 AM Re: Smart autoarranger: when I can buy it? [Re: ailev]
jp47 Offline
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVgXX1XkzNQ

This video is possibly the most interesting for people on this forum.

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#380913 - 01/08/14 11:53 AM Re: Smart autoarranger: when I can buy it? [Re: jp47]
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Originally Posted By: jp47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVgXX1XkzNQ

This video is possibly the most interesting for people on this forum.



what am I missing here? confused1

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#380917 - 01/08/14 12:46 PM Re: Smart autoarranger: when I can buy it? [Re: Dnj]
jp47 Offline
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Registered: 09/22/12
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As I understand the virtualband is like having a friend on another keyboard beside you sometime doing the accompaniment sometime taking the lead. It is not loops styles it seems to try to play or copy your style of playing. I can be completely wrong, tell me whar you understand.

This video is perhaps more explicit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv6bhW3Ia_g

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#380922 - 01/08/14 01:16 PM Re: Smart autoarranger: when I can buy it? [Re: ailev]
ailev Offline
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Loc: Moscow, Russia
This technology is learning on the fly and then reflect your style of playing. Play bass and it will not repeat it but adapt to your cords and rhythm. Add solo and you will be accompanied by previous bass line and chords. Then play as you wanted it, it will be continue learning your bass, cords, harmony, solo and embellishments, rhythm and syncopation. It is true accompanist-on-the-fly technology.

See author of technology performance on guitar (to not think only about keyboards) -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MxdNsr7xns -- and try to understand what you listen in accompaniment from "creatively applying already listened pieces of current song" technology in question. The idea behind Reflexive VirtualBand is to capture on the fly essential elements of the style of a musician and reuse these elements for real-time interaction. In this way the musician can build up a duo or even a trio, playing with virtual representations of her/himself.
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