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#380557 - 01/04/14 01:52 PM Changing the octave in backing parts T5
Robbo Offline
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Hi,
Finally got Tyros 5 loving it to bits. One question? In the backing parts of styles sometimes to my liking i want to change the octave of style parts & even the bass, how do you do this?

Thanks

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#380565 - 01/04/14 04:48 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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This can all be done in the mixing console...


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#380566 - 01/04/14 04:54 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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It's truly a new year! DNJ opened an owner's manual!! smile
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#380567 - 01/04/14 05:03 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
It's truly a new year! DNJ opened an owner's manual!! smile


Actually Don I knew this answer BUT to show someone I thought it better to show the picture.... wink

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#380574 - 01/04/14 07:26 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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What's a Owners Manual? Lloyd

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#380578 - 01/04/14 09:08 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Just for your info. What you showed from the manual does not show octave for "STYLE" parts. Only "VOICE" parts. And that's because, THERE ISN'T THAT ABILITY IN MIXING CONSOLE!

You might be able to go to style creator and over there change the octave, through step editor, but that would be really really time consuming...

I hope "Jorgen" (or whatever his name is) or the other guy has a software program that has the functionality you desire.

Good luck.

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#380582 - 01/04/14 10:58 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Where has Donny got the manual from anyway, I know he is the SZ roving reporter and a mind of information.
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#380590 - 01/05/14 06:15 AM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: shim]
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Originally Posted By: shim
Just for your info. What you showed from the manual does not show octave for "STYLE" parts. Only "VOICE" parts. And that's because, THERE ISN'T THAT ABILITY IN MIXING CONSOLE!

You might be able to go to style creator and over there change the octave, through step editor, but that would be really really time consuming...

I hope "Jorgen" (or whatever his name is) or the other guy has a software program that has the functionality you desire.

Good luck.


Just curious. What is the difference between a 'keyboard part' (as described in the manual) and a 'style part'? What constitutes a 'keyboard part'? A 'voice part'? A 'style part'?

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#380594 - 01/05/14 06:53 AM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Chas, Simple.
There are 3 "melody/right hand" parts or voices, and then there are the 8 "tracks" of voices that make up the style. The OP asked how to change the octave of one (some) of those 8 tracks which make up a style.

It's pretty simple stuff if you use an arranger keyboard...

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#380605 - 01/05/14 10:04 AM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Wrong section of the keyboard Donny - it can't be done there. You can change the octave of the entire style there, but not a single style component. You can also change the octave of a right hand voice there as well.

This would have to be done in the onboard Style Creator program, but I have not done this in so long I forgot how to do it - that among other things I probably should not mention. wink


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#380612 - 01/05/14 10:32 AM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Wrong section of the keyboard Donny - it can't be done there. You can change the octave of the entire style there, but not a single style component. You can also change the octave of a right hand voice there as well.

This would have to be done in the onboard Style Creator program, but I have not done this in so long I forgot how to do it - that among other things I probably should not mention. wink


Gary 8)


I stand corrected gary.... rolleyes

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#380616 - 01/05/14 10:48 AM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Doing this on a Roland is a snap. No need to use the Style Creator. Makeup Tools puts all the commonest style editing needs in one simple place.

Adjust Tone, effects, octave, dynamics (both Volume AND Velocity) for every Style Tone (not just the Style Part, for styles with different sounds on the same Part), and then store them as either offsets (so the original data remains intact, or 'freeze' them to those values... And you can do the same editing to every single sound in a drum Part, too!

TBH, the Makeup Tools are still one of the primary reasons I choose Roland's over others. They make tweaking styles and SMF's easier and more comprehensive than any other make.
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#380637 - 01/05/14 11:51 AM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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You can do the same on the Yamaha's as well using the mixing console, but for some strange reason, you cannot change the octaves - weird!

Gary cool
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#380676 - 01/05/14 03:19 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Ok thanks all for your replies, sad that there is not an easy way to do this, and i'm not even sure re the style creator. So i would like to ask those wonderful people at Yamaha to come up with a firmware/software change to enable this. I know they generally get most things right, but it's a user preference re the octave selection for style parts.

Thanks in anticipation

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#380678 - 01/05/14 04:15 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Rob, I think there is a program on Jorgen's site.

Gary
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#380681 - 01/05/14 05:43 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Rob, I think this may be the program you are looking for. Style Magic

Gary cool
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#380683 - 01/05/14 05:57 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Another program that you may find beneficial is Jorgen Sorensens Style Revoicer .

No cost for this great program.

Gary cool
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#380741 - 01/06/14 02:20 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: travlin'easy]
Robbo Offline
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Thanks to you Trav easy,

Much appreciated

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#380742 - 01/06/14 02:27 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Glad I could help.

Gary cool
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#380807 - 01/07/14 01:17 PM Re: Changing the octave in backing parts T5 [Re: Robbo]
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Maybe you can change the LOW note limit of the track in the style creator?
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