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#380184 - 12/31/13 04:32 PM Buying freeze. It's time.
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That's it - I declare an ALL OUT Buying Freeze! I vow not to buy anymore gear for the rest of the year! I will enjoy the stuff I have, finish this homemade pizza and get a good night's sleep.
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(OK, OK ... it's not homemade - it's DiGiornos!))
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#380187 - 12/31/13 04:44 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Looking at your post...you must be home alone!!!


Me too...with Kathleen and Zack..


Edited by Fran Carango (12/31/13 04:45 PM)
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#380189 - 12/31/13 05:29 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Not alone ... playing my guitars - Kate, Brian and CJ are playing Disney Video games in the LR ... just chillin'
smile
Ahhhhhh - Serenity now!
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#380209 - 01/01/14 06:54 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
That's it - I declare an ALL OUT Buying Freeze! I vow not to buy anymore gear for the rest of the year!


OK 2013 is over wink ....freeze is lifted it's a New Year cool2 .....
let's go shopping buddy!!!! dance2

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#380214 - 01/01/14 07:37 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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"Buying freeze? What's that?? Guess I was born frozen already..."

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#380225 - 01/01/14 09:44 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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I think everyones personal situation is different...

All of 2013 had my audya freezing up.... If there is one thing i dont want in 2014 its another freeze
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#380239 - 01/01/14 10:53 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Buying freeze on for me as far as musical equipment goes, but after April my pension will increase to the point where I can look at another addition, probably Casio PK-5S as it will fulfill two roles...(1) An 88-note weighted action controller with four zones. (2) A fully programmable synth with a different tone generator than what is in what I already have in the Tyros4.

Right now, all my funds are needed for keeping my car in shape. At 167,000 km I need to change Timing Belt and water pump on my 2002 Accord SE 4 cylinder VTEC (150 hp.)...Current mileage is approximately 155,000 km so I have a bit of leeway.

If the timing belt breaks it can completely ruin the engine...the water pump is usually changed while the front of the motor is apart.

The car is otherwise in great shape having just passed the required by law (every two years) Vehicle Inspection.

After that's done I can focus on getting additional music gear.

Ian
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#380240 - 01/01/14 10:56 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By: Bachus
I think everyones personal situation is different...

All of 2013 had my audya freezing up.... If there is one thing i dont want in 2014 its another freeze


Only one way to be sure of that and you know what it is, kiss goodbye
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#380249 - 01/01/14 11:58 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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So far ... so good. Haven't even gotten dressed yet this year!
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#380250 - 01/01/14 12:01 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
So far ... so good. Haven't even gotten dressed yet this year!


OK finished today's gig and now ......drum roll drums
a few days off YEAH!!! baby!! party

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#380252 - 01/01/14 12:01 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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...still not getting dressed.
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#380257 - 01/01/14 12:19 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
...still not getting dressed.


Your fans miss you very much .....& I know your missing it too cool2

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#380270 - 01/01/14 03:08 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Just got home from today's double, Carol is fixing Crab Cakes for dinner, and I have just mixed a green coconut margaratta. Life is good, but damned I'm tired. Must be old age catching up with me, but I think I'm gonna stop booking doubles and triples.

Gary cool
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#380272 - 01/01/14 03:23 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: travlin'easy]
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Did a 3 hour gig in morn yesterday
And a 4 hour night time band gig I am tired got a 4 hour tonight the 1 day to recoup and a big weekend of gigs not much rest
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#380278 - 01/01/14 05:35 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Just got home from today's double, Carol is fixing Crab Cakes for dinner, and I have just mixed a green coconut margaratta. Life is good, but damned I'm tired. Must be old age catching up with me, but I think I'm gonna stop booking doubles and triples.

Gary cool


good idea Gary just book QUADS like me yesterday hahahahahah

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#380280 - 01/01/14 06:00 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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No Quads for me. I don't want to be the richest musician in the cemetery. I would much rather do one job a day, be shot in the back of the head by a jealous husband, while leaping from a second story window with my trousers down around my ankles and a 19-year-old beauty queen screaming "Don't leave me - Don't leave me, Gary." wink

Gary cool
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#380283 - 01/01/14 06:07 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
No Quads for me. I don't want to be the richest musician in the cemetery. I would much rather do one job a day, be shot in the back of the head by a jealous husband, while leaping from a second story window with my trousers down around my ankles and a 19-year-old beauty queen screaming "Don't leave me - Don't leave me, Gary." wink

Gary cool


lets face it......We could have "REAL" jobs .... cool2

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#380287 - 01/01/14 07:56 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
I would much rather ...... be shot in the back of the head by a jealous husband, while leaping from a second story window with my trousers down around my ankles and a 19-year-old beauty queen screaming "Don't leave me - Don't leave me, Gary." wink

Gary cool


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#380290 - 01/01/14 09:19 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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#380294 - 01/01/14 10:50 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: musicforyourday]
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Originally Posted By: musicforyourday
Did a 3 hour gig in morn yesterday
And a 4 hour night time band gig I am tired got a 4 hour tonight the 1 day to recoup and a big weekend of gigs not much rest


It sure has been a busy time for you. I hope you get a bit of a break now.

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#380298 - 01/02/14 12:25 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
No Quads for me. I don't want to be the richest musician in the cemetery. I would much rather do one job a day, be shot in the back of the head by a jealous husband, while leaping from a second story window with my trousers down around my ankles and a 19-year-old beauty queen screaming "Don't leave me - Don't leave me, Gary." wink

Gary cool


Gary Gary Gary wake up, it must be those crab cakes I made you, were you having a dream love, yes love I was fishing and caught a massive one and it just got off, what kind of fish was it Gary love, a mermaid Doris.

Phew that was a close one
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#380299 - 01/02/14 12:30 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Nigel]
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You Guy's really make me feel tired, think I'll go back to bed tired

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#380300 - 01/02/14 12:31 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By: Fran Carango
Looking at your post...you must be home alone!!!


Me too...with Kathleen and Zack..


Fran,

Don't you go buying anything expensive this year unless you run it by us all on SZ, doorstops are small and chunky, KBs are big and shiny, lots of buttons..... confused2
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#380301 - 01/02/14 01:25 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
No Quads for me. I don't want to be the richest musician in the cemetery. I would much rather do one job a day, be shot in the back of the head by a jealous husband, while leaping from a second story window with my trousers down around my ankles and a 19-year-old beauty queen screaming "Don't leave me - Don't leave me, Gary." wink

Gary cool


lets face it......We could have "REAL" jobs .... cool2


I have, thats why i can afford a TOTL arranger in the first place...
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#380324 - 01/02/14 01:33 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Yes, I think I'am done buying more keyboards for the next two or three years too. With a BK-9, S950, and now a Tyros 5 I just about have all I can find time to play with. Oh yea, forgot the Korg MicroArranger - which bye they way is way more fun then all the rest combined.

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#380329 - 01/02/14 02:09 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: hammer]
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Yes, I think I'am done buying more keyboards for the next two or three years too. With a BK-9, S950, and now a Tyros 5 I just about have all I can find time to play with. Oh yea, forgot the Korg MicroArranger - which bye they way is way more fun then all the rest combined.

Deane


You dont need to buy anything, you could just trade the BK9 and the S950 for a PA3X...
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#380401 - 01/03/14 09:26 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Backus,
Ummm, hadn't thought of that.

Deane

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#380405 - 01/03/14 09:43 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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I might do that trade with you Deane!
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#380427 - 01/03/14 10:26 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Yep, I think Don would like to have the S950 again. Some horse tradin' might be the way to go, guys.

Gary cool
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#380430 - 01/03/14 10:29 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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The "Louisiana Lord of the Boards" will sound great on anything made, but ... 10 minutes after playing the 950 keybed, and Don will rethink his position! The 3x feels WONDERFUL, and he'll miss all those sliders and great vocal processing!
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#380435 - 01/03/14 10:35 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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I love the light feel of the S-950 nothing wrong with it for this pro !! on top of that it sounds GREAT!! but Don already knows that and the guitars are top notch.

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#380438 - 01/03/14 10:40 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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you don't LOVE it.
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#380439 - 01/03/14 10:41 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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..and it's not "light" ... it's spongy!
Grrrrrr....
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#380442 - 01/03/14 10:42 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
..and it's not "light" ... it's spongy!
Grrrrrr....


But it sounds Sooooooooooooooooooo GoooooooooooooD headphone keys cool2

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#380443 - 01/03/14 10:44 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Don don't care anymore about key feel than Donny or I - It's the sound that counts. Nothing more, nothing less!

Gary cool
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#380445 - 01/03/14 10:46 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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You are right Dave. I think I'd like the BK9 too though.
I'm happy with PA3X, I just get bored sometimes!
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#380449 - 01/03/14 10:50 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: DonM]
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If you guys don't care about key feel than GOOD for you ...
Dave and I were talking about this the other day and I told him that when I tried the Pa600 at Frankie's, I also tried the S-950 and I did not like the key feel ... of course, SOUND counts a LOT, but I also have to like the feel of what I am making the sound with ...
That's why they make leather gloves and woolen mittens ...
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#380451 - 01/03/14 10:54 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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The lighter the feel the better. Never was a piano player!
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#380453 - 01/03/14 10:57 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Ditto!
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#380457 - 01/03/14 11:13 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
The lighter the feel the better. Never was a piano player!


wink keys cool2

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#380459 - 01/03/14 11:17 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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The Audya is dropping in price less that £3000 at Thoman Germany, I think in the UK it once went up to £4300, and Tyros 5 is a better deal too at Thoman £3125...
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#380466 - 01/03/14 11:54 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Lightness and piano action are worlds apart. A solid, tight keyset is used by all the manufacturers on their HIGH end stuff, so why don't they think it's important for all players ... Hmmmm?
Piano action has nothing to do with synth action, and a good synth action has nothing in common with ANY PSR product ever made. (with the exception of he 9000Pro, but I'm not 100% sure if it was or was not part of the PSR family - it's not printed on the KB as such)

I hardly ever play acoustic pianos, but even in my Rhodes days .... the heavier action was part of the expressiveness. Today's PSR action is lacking in that area - sure, the sound engine sounds great, and all the bells and whistles are made to perform well .... it's just the touch that drives me nuts. No solid landing at the end of the key stroke - no firm feel under my fingers - skinny keys .... too many things to cite. Fact remains - aw ... who am I kidding ... there are no facts here - just opinions. Mine is that Yamaha is cheating it's MOTR buyers big time. Until they make a keyboard that feels as good as their high end stuff (and HAS speakers) - I will not be using their product.
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#380473 - 01/03/14 01:07 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
Lightness and piano action are worlds apart. A solid, tight keyset is used by all the manufacturers on their HIGH end stuff, so why don't they think it's important for all players ... Hmmmm?
Piano action has nothing to do with synth action, and a good synth action has nothing in common with ANY PSR product ever made. (with the exception of he 9000Pro, but I'm not 100% sure if it was or was not part of the PSR family - it's not printed on the KB as such)

I hardly ever play acoustic pianos, but even in my Rhodes days .... the heavier action was part of the expressiveness. Today's PSR action is lacking in that area - sure, the sound engine sounds great, and all the bells and whistles are made to perform well .... it's just the touch that drives me nuts. No solid landing at the end of the key stroke - no firm feel under my fingers - skinny keys .... too many things to cite. Fact remains - aw ... who am I kidding ... there are no facts here - just opinions. Mine is that Yamaha is cheating it's MOTR buyers big time. Until they make a keyboard that feels as good as their high end stuff (and HAS speakers) - I will not be using their product.


one players love is another players dislike...
we all play differently, example I dont like pedals ..
some others do...so what? I dont like BOSe systems , some love em, so what?.......At the end of the day it bought closing your eyes and HEARING what it sounds like no matter what instrument & gear you use to achieve that. There are NO Rules in music. cool2

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#380474 - 01/03/14 01:18 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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well, the audience cares about the "sound" (as do I), but only the player is affected by the "feel" ... and in some cases - it's a big effect.
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#380476 - 01/03/14 01:58 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Oh baby I love the S-950 "Accordion FEEL key-bed"......
lightning fast with no finger fatigue ever also.

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#380477 - 01/03/14 01:59 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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great example - accordions had NO slop!
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#380482 - 01/03/14 02:39 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
great example - accordions had NO slop!


but the slop is the best part ... cool2

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#380490 - 01/03/14 03:38 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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gross.
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#380546 - 01/04/14 11:46 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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The funniest thing is, the SAME manufacturer is putting quite decent actions on WS's that cost FAR less than an S950. So, apparently, only Yamaha arranger playing 'pros' like slop... Even Yamaha WS 'amateurs' know a crap action when they play one, but arranger 'pros' don't recognize it.

None so blind as those that don't WANT to admit they see...!
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#380550 - 01/04/14 12:17 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Define slop and crap.

Gary cool
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#380556 - 01/04/14 01:49 PM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Diki]
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Originally Posted By: Diki
The funniest thing is, the SAME manufacturer is putting quite decent actions on WS's that cost FAR less than an S950. So, apparently, only Yamaha arranger playing 'pros' like slop... Even Yamaha WS 'amateurs' know a crap action when they play one, but arranger 'pros' don't recognize it.

None so blind as those that don't WANT to admit they see...!


In one paragraph you belittle those of us who have a need for soft light action, pros who use PSRs, and as usual most anyone who doesn't agree with what YOU want or need. Well done, again as usual.
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#380608 - 01/05/14 10:17 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: travlin'easy]
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14203
Loc: NW Florida
Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Define slop and crap.


S950.
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#380610 - 01/05/14 10:27 AM Re: Buying freeze. It's time. [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14203
Loc: NW Florida
Fact of the matter is, were Yamaha to upgrade their PSR series with the action from their less expensive WS brethren, absolutely no-one would complain...

Sadly, as has been demonstrated time after time, for some unknown reason, Yamaha users will defend to the last every questionable decision Yamaha take, until the day that Yamaha rectify it, then they will spend the remaining time trying to pretend that they had never said that what they used to have was perfect (and by definition, what they now have no longer is!).

Add to this that the main 'defenders' of this appalling action are players that freely admit they don't play conventionally, if well at all. But, I suppose if you want to take an opinion seriously about an action, what harm is there listening to those who claim poor playing skills?! LOL But agreeing with them?

Take them seriously, who knows..? Yamaha might actually think that the vast majority of arranger players really DO prefer such an excremental action. I guess it's a good thing that they don't take such opinions seriously when making workstations... or their TOTL arrangers!
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