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#367167 - 06/05/13 10:32 AM Re: BK-9 on order... [Re: Diki]
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Have you tried 'Freezing' your edits in the G70 before you transfer it over to the BK?
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#367181 - 06/05/13 04:24 PM Re: BK-9 on order... [Re: Diki]
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally Posted By: Diki
Have you tried 'Freezing' your edits in the G70 before you transfer it over to the BK?








Mentioned in my last sentence above.. smile
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#367183 - 06/05/13 06:04 PM Re: BK-9 on order... [Re: Diki]
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Good luck Diki! Don't go schizophrenic with the dual screen wink

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#367193 - 06/05/13 09:29 PM Re: BK-9 on order... [Re: Diki]
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What was the source of the errant SMF's? Were they commercial GS SMF's, XG, made from scratch on the G70, Recorder captures of G70 arranger play?

Sorry I missed the freeze reference.

Did you have an SRX card in the G70, was the sequence pointing to that?

Also, you remember this thread from Roland-Arranger.com? http://www.roland-arranger.com/smf/index.php?topic=1948.0

Seems some of the kits may be missing from the PC#/00/32 table. Have you double checked to see if the kit called up in the SMF has a kit in the BK with the same PC#/32/00?

I seem to remember some styles that were supposed to call up SRX basses, and kept calling up an trumpet, or something along those lines. As soon as I Makeup Tooled them and saved, they played fine.

In all fairness, when I get a new piece of gear, I generally redo all my SMF's. Not really much point playing old SMF's that point to the old sounds... Might as well not have newer gear for that!
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#367194 - 06/05/13 09:31 PM Re: BK-9 on order... [Re: Diki]
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Oh, and have you tried simply saving them as is in the BK again, THEN trying the Makeup Tools on them..?
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#367195 - 06/05/13 09:32 PM Re: BK-9 on order... [Re: Beakybird]
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Originally Posted By: Beakybird
Good luck Diki! Don't go schizophrenic with the dual screen wink


At least I'll never get lonely... confused2
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#367209 - 06/06/13 06:07 AM Re: BK-9 on order... [Re: Diki]
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Diki, when editing on a G70 to play on a BK is not a major update ..maybe a change of drums..They are so similar, I would think there should be no problems...When I take a basic SMF and do all edits in the BK make up tools, it is fine..This is what I want to avoid (time consuming)..

Some of the problem files are XG, that worked fine after edits on the G70...both on Prelude, and E-50/60...but not on BK..Yet the BK has no problem with them being a XG file and allows edits from it's make up tools...The problem is the system message that the G70 adds, and not recognized by the BK...

I think this can easily be fixed by Roland..the systems are nearly identicle (G70 and BK)..

I wonder if the lack of a sequencer on the BK5 could be the problem..Although the E-600 had the same problem as the BK5 and it had a sequencer..

I posted a file on Roland arranger site, and was hoping someone would try it in the BK9...
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#367220 - 06/06/13 01:19 PM Re: BK-9 on order... [Re: Diki]
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If you use Sonor (or any other sequencer with this capability), isn't there a 'batch' feature that allows you to do certain operations on a whole bunch of files at the same time?

Perhaps if it is as easy as simply removing certain sys-ex codes, and changing a particular PC#/32/00 code to a different one, maybe a script could be written to do the whole lot in one go?
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#367221 - 06/06/13 01:45 PM Re: BK-9 on order... [Re: Diki]
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GNMidi is one of the best for doing this.

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#367228 - 06/06/13 04:38 PM Re: BK-9 on order... [Re: miden]
Fran Carango Offline
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The system exclusive file is a common file..(transpose), that the BK fails to recognize properly and for some reason effects the drums (piano tone).
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