Has anyone used "Notation Musician" or "Notation Composer" in conjunction with their 7000? If anyone has, let me know how it worked out for you. I'm considering purchasing "Composer" to generate charts for the group I'm with, "The Casinos". Basically, I need lead/bass guitar charts, a drum chart, horn charts (sax and trumpet) and an alternate keyboard chart for a 2nd keyboard player (me being "numero uno", lol).

I should've included this in my previous post. If you go to http://www.notation.com and then go to the community discussion page, you'll see the thread that I generated, and Notation's response to it. That may clear things up a bit as to whether or not Notation Composer will work for my application. BTW, the thread is called "Pre-Purchase Questions".

Hate to keep answering myself, lol. Let me cut-paste the reply that I got from Notation Composer as to whether or not their software would work for me, maybe then those more knowledgeable than I can form an opinion:

Hi, Jimmie:

Composer imports and exports standard midi files, so if you can get save in that format on the KN-7000, there should be no problem.

Despite the name of the site (freemidifiles.biz), it seems that all the versions of Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye on the site are mp3 files, not midi files. Nice song, by the way -- I'd not heard it before.

A midi file is the "score" whereas an mp3 file is the "45 rpm record" -- the two aren't interchangeable. There are some programs now that claim to be able to transcribe from an audio file, but to my mind they are not very successful.

There are plenty of midi file versions of Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye on the net.

But, going back to the KN-7000, if you have an option to save as a midi file, you should be able to get your sequenced tracks into Composer. The only remaining question is whether the Technics saves the auto-rhythm/auto-accompaniment tracks into the file.

Hope that helps.

David

Jim, first I should say that I do not have an answer for your specific question. I do have Notation Composer and use it occasionally for lead sheets. It can convert a midi file to notation and does a pretty good job, including interpreting chords. But my experience with converting any song that has any "feeling" in the sequence to a midi file, creates an enormous list of notes of various sizes in timing. There is a quantize function that reduces a lot of the extraneous notes but there is still a lot of editing to do.

I think I understand what you are trying to do and I do not know how well the KN7000 saves composer files to midi. But I assume that the rhythm styles also use a certain degree of feeling which could result in a lot of extraneous notes. My work in the past has almost always resulted in manual notation because of the high degree of editing required for notation created from midi files.

Hi Bob, Thanks for your reply. I have never really "worked" with Midi on the 7000, I always saved everything to Technics files, so I'm a total "noobie" to all of this. I get your point that there could be a lot of superfluous notation that would have to be edited out. After all of this, I may end up with notation paper and a sharp pencil, lol...and then I'd never be able to do the drum chart anyway. It's too bad that there isn't some type of notation program that can work reliably with an MP3, I guess it just hasn't been developed (yet).

Jim, I have used the Encore program for the last 10 years. Getting into general midi files with the Kn700, as Bob said is a thankless job. I found it too much to deal with.

If I am correct on Korg and Yamaha keyboards all the parts are recorded as midi files making them easier to transport.

I do not have Knowledge of the notation program but I’m betting that you can play back directly useing your program into a sound source; the computer or the Kn7000 without transferring a midi file into the Kn7000 -- use the kN7000 as a sound source. As good as the Kn7000 is I have never found it to be friendly when dealing with midi files.

Why not create your music as you stated –“I need lead/bass guitar charts, a drum chart, horn charts (sax and trumpet) and an alternate keyboard chart for a 2nd keyboard player (me).” Play using notation without going to the Kn7000. Years ago you gave some good midi files of you playing piano/organ solos, and I did my best to convert them to the Kn7000. They lost the value of your playing big time.

I hope my memory serves me well with what I have written,
John C.

Hey Jim long time no talk so Hi. I use Notation Musician all the time but the opposite what you want to do. I use VanBasco to find a tune then download it as a MIDI file and load it into NM. It first will give me all the tracks of the music by instrument within the MIDI so depending on what the MIDI contains you'll get several instrument tracks. I always converge the tracks down to a Fakebook type lead sheet but you might want to just keep all the tracks seperate. Don t know what these would look like to a horn player or drummer but I guess show them and see what they think.

Hi Jim,I use Notation software both musician and composer, saying you save your files in Technics format you have presumably having used the inbuilt APC. If you require to printout the bass or guitar parts you will need to convert the file to standard midi format,this may sound to be very hard,not so as long as you have 5 unused tracks in the sequence as you can then use the converter to split the APC into it's individual parts onto each of the 5 tracks, ie:- bass, drums, acc 1, acc2 etc. This can then be saved as a midi file on a floppy disc then downloaded to computer and opened in Notation allowing you to see all the parts, with ref to the drum part the program will print this in true drum dots which any good drummer should be able to read.
Good luck as it takes a little practice to do the file conversion on the keyboard but the result is very worth it.
Best regards John.