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#364555 - 04/07/13 09:31 AM VoiceToArrange
PatSar63 Offline
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VoiceToArrange is a very nice feature to get automatically a specific voice with every arranger section (A, B, C and D).

But do you how to do to empty this field when a voicie is already defined ? I would to cancel the defined voices. Once a voice defined, the choice could be changed but I can't return to the default (-----) 'No Voice'

Thanks in advance.
Patrick

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#364612 - 04/08/13 01:08 AM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: PatSar63]
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Originally Posted By: PatSar63
VoiceToArrange is a very nice feature to get automatically a specific voice with every arranger section (A, B, C and D).

But do you how to do to empty this field when a voicie is already defined ? I would to cancel the defined voices. Once a voice defined, the choice could be changed but I can't return to the default (-----) 'No Voice'

Thanks in advance.


Patrick


In that same screen where you assign the voices, simply press F5 to deactivate the feature for this one style only. Then go back to STYLE VIEW and SAVE the style once more.
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#364625 - 04/08/13 05:52 AM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: Ketron_AJ]
gruhs Offline
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I assume your referring to "left hand voices in the style view".
Is there a way to have a different "right hand" voice saved for
each arrangement (A, B, C, D) ?

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#364631 - 04/08/13 09:56 AM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: PatSar63]
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gruhs,

This is the process for the lead/right hand voices.

Actually, the AJAMSONIC packages makes great use of this feature where included, all voices are automatically assigned 4 lead voices to the arranger (One Touch) ... plus 20 favorite/voice list voices. All you do is select a style. As you play, AUDYA automatically selects the appropriate voices for the various arranger sections. If not enough, simply press the VOICE LIST and have direct access to 10 voices for each style. Go to Page 2 for another 10 (20 in total). You focus on playing ... we push the buttons for you. If you don't like the current voice selection, you can simply overwrite or turn this future off and manually select your voices as you see appropriate.

These and lot's more features are covered in our 3+Hrs extensive DVD manual and tutorial available at www.Ajamsonic.com

Thanks,

AJ
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#364643 - 04/08/13 02:29 PM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: Ketron_AJ]
andreurivero Offline
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Registered: 03/05/12
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Hi, I try and think that one time that you choose one VOICE you can't erase it, you only can change it for another one

I would to know one thing in account at this question, if I select a style, go to MODE 2/2, in the empty fields A, B, C, D, I select a VOICE,(I think that is for the right hand 'cause I go to VOICE and can select one voice), but my question is, I left this screen and play with this style, but when I change the arranger to A, B, C, D, the right hand don't change, what's wrong?. Thanks

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#364715 - 04/10/13 08:16 AM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: Ketron_AJ]
gruhs Offline
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Registered: 02/24/11
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Loc: Indiana USA
Originally Posted By: Ketron_AJ
gruhs,

This is the process for the lead/right hand voices.

Actually, the AJAMSONIC packages makes great use of this feature where included, all voices are automatically assigned 4 lead voices to the arranger (One Touch) ... plus 20 favorite/voice list voices. All you do is select a style. As you play, AUDYA automatically selects the appropriate voices for the various arranger sections. If not enough, simply press the VOICE LIST and have direct access to 10 voices for each style. Go to Page 2 for another 10 (20 in total). You focus on playing ... we push the buttons for you. If you don't like the current voice selection, you can simply overwrite or turn this future off and manually select your voices as you see appropriate.

These and lot's more features are covered in our 3+Hrs extensive DVD manual and tutorial available at www.Ajamsonic.com

Thanks,

AJ



The above I believe refers to the arranger accompaniment voices. I was wondering if each of the 4 arrangements could have a different "right hand voice" saved to them... I seriously doubt it but thought I would ask.

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#364934 - 04/14/13 01:44 PM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: PatSar63]
Ketron_AJ Offline
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gruhs,

The above does refer to the "different right hand voice saved to them" ...

Thanks.

AJ
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#364941 - 04/14/13 05:06 PM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: Ketron_AJ]
gruhs Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ketron_AJ
gruhs,

The above does refer to the "different right hand voice saved to them" ...

Thanks.

AJ


Is this only in the Ajamsonic customized units or also true for factory units from Audya/Ketron? I'm not sure we are understanding each other.

Imagine this scenario...

If I select a "big band style" accompaniment "A", I would like a sax right hand lead voice. Then with my foot control (I'm an accordion player and do not have the hand freedom of a keyboard player) I change to arrangement "B" and want a trombone right hand lead voice. Then with my foot control I change to arrangement "C" and want strings for my right hand lead voice. And finally with my foot control I change to arrangement "D" and want a fuller right hand sound like a sax with harmony activated.

Are you saying the above is possible with a stock Audya unit?

Sorry to be so slow on the up-take here, but I'm not getting the answer yet.

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#364956 - 04/15/13 02:16 AM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: gruhs]
andreurivero Offline
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Registered: 03/05/12
Posts: 78
Hi, that's the same that I want to know, it's possible to make it?, how?. Regards

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#364957 - 04/15/13 02:46 AM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: PatSar63]
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You can always easily make up 4 single registrations in a block and step through them with the pedal.
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#364964 - 04/15/13 05:24 AM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: Bernie9]
gruhs Offline
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Registered: 02/24/11
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Loc: Indiana USA
Hi Bernie, that's probably the only solution. I would have to figure out a way to keep the four registrations together in correct order then that would work. Right now my registrations are in a bit of random order... some have numbers in front of them and some do not??? A simple alphabetical order would work for what you describe. I did this with some songs when I was using the MS40 to change tempo but on the ms40 I could set up voices in programs and step through them up and down with foot pedals. Then you could use that same sequence of programed voices with many registrations. I don't think that's possible with Audya but haven't figured out how to set up my own program choices on the Audya anyway. Several times here on the forum there have been tips and instructions on "programs" but so far they all make no sense... very difficult machine to learn.

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#364982 - 04/15/13 12:12 PM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: PatSar63]
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Gruhs,

This is true for all AUDYA products ... difference with the AJAMSONIC is ... it's been done for you!

* Select your style.
* Press STYLE MODE
* Press MODE 2/2 (User1/6)
* Press F1 (Arr A) and select a voice for it).
* Repeat for F2-F4 (Arr B -Arr D).
* Test
* Make sure "STYLE" F5 = On and "Global" F10 = On
* Exit to default screen.
* Press STYLE VIEW
* Press SAVE and SAVE (User 5/10) to save setting within style!

Thanks,

AJ


Edited by Ketron_AJ (04/15/13 12:13 PM)
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#364991 - 04/15/13 03:37 PM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: Ketron_AJ]
Lyker Offline
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Registered: 03/13/13
Posts: 7
Loc: DK
This is correct.. I´m using it in some few registrations,and not saving in styles, but in
Reg.,then I have the possibility to use the style in another reg.,with other voices – or without - .The only disadvantage is that the voice in the new choosen variation can only be played from the 2. bit.- but I can live with that..
To be quit shure,before writing this,I made a test,and found out, that I can no longer
change the voice cat.. If I choose a voice cat. - let´s say Sax - in var.A,it is no longer possible to choose another voice cat. In B-C-D but only another Sax type….
It seems that this bug has arrived with the OS5,0..

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#364996 - 04/15/13 04:22 PM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: Lyker]
andreurivero Offline
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Registered: 03/05/12
Posts: 78
Many thanks AJ.

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#365006 - 04/15/13 05:51 PM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: Lyker]
gruhs Offline
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Registered: 02/24/11
Posts: 201
Loc: Indiana USA
Originally Posted By: Lyker
This is correct.. I´m using it in some few registrations,and not saving in styles, but in
Reg.,then I have the possibility to use the style in another reg.,with other voices – or without - .The only disadvantage is that the voice in the new choosen variation can only be played from the 2. bit.- but I can live with that..
To be quit shure,before writing this,I made a test,and found out, that I can no longer
change the voice cat.. If I choose a voice cat. - let´s say Sax - in var.A,it is no longer possible to choose another voice cat. In B-C-D but only another Sax type….
It seems that this bug has arrived with the OS5,0..


Lyker, please explain "the voice in the new chosen variation can only be played from the 2. bit."

AJ, thanks for spelling out the steps to use :-) Can't wait to try this!

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#365048 - 04/16/13 11:22 AM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: PatSar63]
Lyker Offline
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Registered: 03/13/13
Posts: 7
Loc: DK
I understand your confusion - the word "bit" should be changed to "beat"
I think that will make sense…

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#365057 - 04/16/13 12:55 PM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: Lyker]
gruhs Offline
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Registered: 02/24/11
Posts: 201
Loc: Indiana USA
Had an opportunity to try AJ's procedure this morning and low & behold it worked :-). When I originally asked the question I didn't really think it would be possible. I have a bunch of registrations already so three of these is what I chose from to try . I loaded the desired registration then turned off the registration button (lite) and followed the steps from there. I didn't save to style but rather chose to save to the same original registration that I started with... works perfectly. I have the Audya set to play a break/arpeggio whenever I change arrangements (like from A to D for example) and the new lead (right hand) voice doesn't start until that break is done so a little timing practice is needed to make it seamless but it works great. Thanks AJ for spelling out the steps. Wouldn't it be great if every feature available on the Audya was spelled out in understandable steps like this one? I for one don't think many of the features are "discoverable" by trial and error or accident.

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#365067 - 04/16/13 02:24 PM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: PatSar63]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Great news gruhs

I am still marveling every week about something on the Audya I didn't know. That's a good one.

To be fair to AJ, I guess this was covered in his tutorial vid I bought with the upgrade, but there are so many features, I probably overlooked it. It just shows me I have to go back and review.
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#365092 - 04/17/13 05:37 AM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: Bernie9]
gruhs Offline
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Registered: 02/24/11
Posts: 201
Loc: Indiana USA
"To be fair to AJ, I guess this was covered in his tutorial vid I bought with the upgrade, but there are so many features, I probably overlooked it. It just shows me I have to go back and review."

Sounds like a good learning tool Bernie, maybe I'll look into getting that disc. I bought one off ebay from a someone else a couple years ago but it would only play in vcr and not in my computer... not very good that way. Just watching like a movie doesn't give enough time to grasp all the details, can't pause to study or print out anything.

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#365356 - 04/20/13 10:31 PM Re: VoiceToArrange [Re: PatSar63]
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gruhs,

This DVD tutorial and manual for the AUDYA series is a 3+hrs DVD set which is divided into chapters you can selected on either your DVD player or computer. You can pause wherever you want, rewind and play again at your own speed until you understand the topic at hand.

It's a MUST for every AUDYA user as nearlly all features and functions are laid out, broken down and discused as the point above ... ask those on this forum and others who already have their copies.

You can get more information at www.AjamSonic.com.

Thanks,

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