This IS an Internal style from Audya.
The Only "extras" are the guitar riffs and vocals, THAT'S IT !!!

Does anything else come close?
Does anything else sound so REAL?
If so, please prove me wrong and post a link....thanks

Just my $0.02 of course

So the video of the bass player playing is just for show?

According to the source....


The song is record in 7 tracks.
1. track is full style,we have only pan guitars and check volume of bass, drums and guitars in the style. I play chords. So all that in one track.
2. track my friend play this riffs with guitar to make full song.
3.Main Vocal
4.Back vocal
5.Back vocal
6.Back vocal....


Diki,
I have a feeling you like it and are impressed ?
It's ok to say so.

Don't know about anyone else, but I am impressed ... ... nice rendition ...
Thank you ...

Lee very nice job Great song.....Thanx for sharing.

PS,.. try not to use the word "best" in your post title....
let the music speak for itself..

Here is one more covered song The Thriller Band - I Can See Clearly Now. Audya is powerful tool, all you need is imagination...;)

LINK :
http://youtu.be/gZe32Ya5l-8

Dnj,

this is not my band,
it was shared by blackberry
sorry i used the word "best"
next time i'll use the words "unsurpassed" or "incomparable" lol

here's another song done with Audya from same band, as posted above, just with youtube clip embedded... enjoy

No prob Lee....I see your very excited with your Audya as I should be it's a very fine arranger KB as can clearly be heard as the foundation backup for The Thriller Band. Although not for everyone it certainly has its place amongst the totl contenders on the market today.

If you are in the studio you can do this with a 2-3 hundred dollars worth of VST's but if you are playing LIVE that's a different story, so, can you make you're own audio drums? AUDYA is a good board with outdated technology and ahead of it's time just like General Music, but in my opinion over-priced just like the TYROS line, that's one big reason that the KORGS are so popular, you get a lot for the money. I have a friend that heard the AUDYA live and was very dissapointed, but then again it depends from what you hear it out of?

I am not impressed at all. For a 4000 Euro keyboard I expect a much better sound. Ofcourse my opinion.

FransN

I respect your opinion but ask 1 thing

Please post a better sounding demo from a better sounding arranger, no matter what the price $500-$5,000

I await the enlightenment

Thanks

just wondering - how is it possible to better the sound we are hearing on these videos?

Lee and TWD - you guys expect objectivity on THIS forum..


Dennis

PS: I think it sounds great - always have - just too many $'s

You are right Midden, Thats why I was giving FransN the opportunity to explain herself.

Maybe she thinks the studio could have recorded a real drummer instead...hey wait..these are recordings of a real drummer.

Or maybe she thinks the MIDI drums of a PA600 would sound better than real drums for this kind of music?

Who knows??

Yep...agreed

She is a he. I just said my opinion. That's all. Ketron is not my thing.

FransN

opinions are just that, until they can be backed up by FACTS...

Is the T4 your thing?
the PA3X?
the G-70?

if not, then it's ARRANGERS in general that's not your thing,
and therefore you are voicing your opinion in the wrong forum.

i think there are LOTS of people here that think the Audya is awesome, as are these demos,
but of course many are too proud to admit it, or just too dedicated to their brand

and for anyone to say that the demos posted are not impressive, (for an ARRANGER keyboard) especially 1st demo,
well that's just insane,

just my $0.02

to each his own,

The thing that puts me off the Ketron is the scarcity of styles like this. According to the Audya's specs, there are TWO audio reggae styles. I guess this is one of them. That don't leave much over if you do a fair bit of reggae...

For the odd recording project, all is good. But go out live, and do more than two or three reggae songs, and the audience will rapidly know you are using the same style over and over...

The problem the Audya has, is that equivalent styles to what is contained on-board can be made with Midi using VSTi as their sound source, as well as giving the user the flexibility to edit and create new styles for their own purpose, thus it would have been more sensible if Ketron had created an arranger that came with these type of sounds as standard, rather than the limited versions of audio. (It’s this limitation that puts a lot of users off getting one)

In addition many of the other sounds on the instrument while good fall behind a lot of other manufactures factory sounds, which is another disincentive. (Styles on their own (No matter how good) are not much use as they are just too repetitive whether audio or Midi)

If the Audya does what you want then it’s great, however it is not universal therefore it cannot be the best, only one of.

Bill

I do love a challenge

https://www.box.com/s/mnnxoi8hoohe57iuhaq4

The second style is from the Pa600 (Modern Beat) both recorded side by side on the Zoom R16 (separate tracks and faded in and out). Sorry no vocals didn't have time LOL

A touch of EQ on the Pa600 and to my ears albeit old ones there is not a great deal of difference.

Long live Korg £800 Vs £4500


Regards

Col

It amazes me how every single thread that mentions Audya degenerates into these sad battles.

If you want to keep arrangers alive you need to support this kind of contribution from younger artists



The PA600 sounds like an old skool TR606...cool. (although too much reverb)

And you honestly cant hear the difference between that and even a the low quality, highly compressed audio of the original track?

Hi TWD

It's not a battle just an observation and I did say my ears were old one's, I,ve had them 71 years. It will be interesting what other people think.

I've absolutely nothing against the Audya and have 'no doubt' that it's a fine board but I dont thick it would make my humble efforts sound that much better than my Korg. In anycase 50% the poeple I play for are asleep and the remainder are deaf.

Kindest Regards

Col

Its not just you Col, it happens almost everytime. Although in this case, perhaps Leezone was a little over enthusiastic with the thread title

The thing is, you don't see it the other way around. If someone posts a demo or recording of their Korg, owners of other keyboards do not jump on the thread and claim their arranger will do it better. I find it very strange.

As for the youtube video posted here - I enjoyed it a great deal, and its refreshing to see an arranger keyboard put to use this way instead of in a retirement home! Its a nice clean recording with great vocals.

Diki

I don't remember Ketron claiming that the Audya
Was THE Arranger for Reggae artists
It's meant to be versatile across many genres with a little of everything

I'd be curious to know how many Reggae styles are included in T4,
PA3x, G-70

Maybe one of those is THE ReggArranger?

Saswicks comparison was fair to my relatively young ears . There was not a huge difference in sound quality and minus vocals and guitar licks you might find it hard to tell which was which (in terms of sound quality ).

Hey, Col ... just like a jazz group playing 'fours' ... ...

To me, the problem arises when someone says something like "Why the Ketron AUDYA IS THE BEST... No Doubt..."
The BEST keyboard is the one that works BEST for YOU ... and as we have seen here many times, even THAT may be a fleeting sentiment ... but as long as YOU (and that means all of US) are happy playing what you have, so be it ...
Comparisons are great, but only to show differences, not to change peoples minds ...
JMHO

What do you do with original track when i listen there is on track mobile effect? You can,t put effect on master track with vocals to kill only vocals, you kill all song do you hear that?
And your style is not reggae! So you can,t compare!!!

Here another video of the PA600. Was already post on this thread http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/361428/Pa600_demos#Post361428



Again who needs these audio drums. Not me.

And here a video of the even cheaper Roland BK 5.

Its amazing what can be achieved using the right EQ & effects...
thanx for sharing.

Hey Lee...I have 13 Reggaes on my G70 ..sure 12 of them are sourced from the flash memory...but still there at a push of a button...

I have always given Ketron credit for the best drums and bass...but I also find Roland a close second...and given the superior stage friendliness of the G70...I choose (and chose)..to use the G70 live..

And when you compare the editing of the Audya and G70...maybe it is my choice (g70)..in the studio too.

its like a kindergarten in here... "your toy isn't as good as my toy"

no wonder there are hardly any new people in this sandbox.

If I were Blackberry I would delete this forum from my favourites and go somewhere that appreciates good music.

That's what you get if you put the word BEST in the title. Audya the best... no doubt. Yes that's why everybody buy a Tyros 4 or PA3X

Yes a big +1 here...

And those that sell their Audya , buy something else,
eventually come to a realization and go back to the Audya.

I love this forum, it is the BEST, no doubt...

Plenty of people lurking TWD they are just to sensible to join the fray

Col

Sadly, I agree TWD, and I suspect there are a few more besides me.

I am so glad we all agree that ALL the arrangers on the market today can be used to create fantastic music. We're living in a great time for technology although it's only in its infancy more exciting things are to come for sure in the future that will make all we have now obsolete for sure.....enjoy and pay what you already have as not to far in the years to come will will be amazed at what it to come in the music world. Whether it's just a Home Hobby like many here, or a Professional music career just keep music alive,.....

... that is a BEST I will agree with ...

We are all the BEST...

I've got well over 20 different reggae styles for my Roland's. Legacy styles, current styles, and conversion styles. And they all sound the same quality (after I edited them). Can't do that with an Audya. Your two audio styles will sound great, and the rest will sound poorly in comparison.

And you want to know why threads like this devolve quickly... look at the title! If I post a thread saying my G70 is the best, even with a decent demo, it will get the same response.

Diki,

In all fairness, the Ajamsonic upgrade did bring with it some nice extra Reggae styles. Plus, amongst the many thousand of styles I've converted, you'll also find many more than just your named few, but including all of yours, Reggae styles, all of them extremely good quality.

So no my friend, although I don't want to participate in this argument, I have to make you aware that the Audya CERTAINLY does not suffer from a lack of Reggae styles in any way or form... I'm sure we have many more of those than you currently have. I converted EVERYTHING I could find for the Roland to the Audya. So we have everything you have plus many more of those...not to even mention the audio versions of those!

We are not behind in any way or form.

All the best my friend,

Henni

One good comparison:

CLICK HERE!

and HERE

CLICK HERE!

Dynamix Samples for KORG and YAMAHA Arrangers

I've said it before, I'll say it again... IF those audio styles are so good, who would want to play a regular MIDI style right next to one?

You can't have it both ways. Either audio styles really ARE that good (I must confess, many of them are) and MIDI styles compare poorly to them, or they aren't, and a whole load of BS has to be put up with in the way of ineditablity for them.

But you can't mix and match the two without some poor comparison...

While my MIDI based arrangers can't quite match the best of the audio styles, they get the job done. And ALL my styles sound comparable. Not a few really great audio ones and a whole heap of poorer sounding MIDI styles. ALL my styles are similar quality.

I do undertand where your coming from Diki. Fortunately Ketrons Midi Drums Styles have always been very good for live use and you can get away with using some Midi styles in the absence of a suitable Audio style, that is why the Audya is backward compatible. Quite often its possible to cut the Midi Drums of a style and replace it with Audio drums and because the Audio Drums are generic they can be used with many many different styles. (Currently there are around 450 Audio drum Loops to choose from on board)

But Audya doesn't have every groove for every piece music, which is why when there is a demand Ketron will release new styles...not so much for the patterns but for the Audio drums. Like the last UK USB Update. The idea was to have new loops and grooves that could cover many different styles. 5 patterns - but with the possibilty to convert tons of new styles to Audio. I know there are still some missing and if there is demand we will add those too. (One suggestion was the groove for 'Walking On Sunshine' which is currently missing from the instrument.

If your happy to use Midi styles (Like Henni) you really do have the best of both worlds. For me though, I will always cut the Midi drums and replace with an Audio Drum. In fact we are working on a project at the moment which requires just that. So far I have converted around 50 legacy styles to Audio styles. These will be available soon too for those who do not want to do it for themselves.

Eventually we will be able to cover anything anyone can throw at us with Audio drums...but for now, yes, sometimes you have to compromise and the Keyboard sounds more like the a standard arranger, but most times we can drop the Midi drums from a style.

I guess I'm just too big a drum lover... Other than generic elevator stuff, each and every hit tune has something in the drums that makes it unique, makes it stand out. That's why, if you have a style that nails a certain tune's groove, replacing it with a DIFFERENT groove just to have audio drums in the style don't cut it for me. Likewise, that moved snare drum hit, or specific kick pattern is what makes a certain song. You cannot do that to an audio drum groove,

It's either the right one, or the WRONG one, for me. Generic patterns don't cut it for most music.

And we still haven't addressed SMF playback. Once again, if your act is a mix of style and SMF, how do you get around the change in sound when you have to go to MIDI drums for the SMF's? And please don't go on about replacing the drum track with an audio track from the factory patterns. That's even MORE difficult to do, when an SMF's drum parts can be much closer to a song's groove...

I also know where you are coming from, Tone. At what the Ketron does best, it is head and shoulders above other arrangers. But if your needs go beyond that, you are back to having a mere MIDI arranger, and TBH, the Ketron isn't necessarily the best at that... I still believe the future of arrangers isn't audio. That will always have limitations and not be as versatile as MIDI. And as sample ROM sizes get bigger and bigger, it gets harder and harder to tell the difference between audio and VSTi quality MIDI tracks. Soon, you won't be able to at all.

In the meantime, my ROM styles, my legacy styles and my SMF's ALL sound exactly the same. I'd rather have that than some killer audio styles and the rest not as good.