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#360351 - 02/04/13 03:32 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Tonewheeldude]
Dnj Senior Member Registered: 09/21/00 Posts: 43703	Originally Posted By: Tonewheeldude Thank You for posting the PSR950 recordings. I did not think any Yamaha owners would man up actually - well done! As Diki pointed out, At the moment we are comparing Mid range keyboards with Audya which is a little unfair, so we still need Korg PA3X and Yamaha's Flagship the Tyros 4 (which came out after the Audya so should be in the running) With these so called Audio styles it is what it is right now...nothing more nothing less..honestly on the S950 some of the Jazz & Latin ones are really good ...but sadly on the other hand ones like in the R&B category are less then stellar to the point of unusable. So for now it pick and choose if you want to incorporate them into your repertoire, who know what the future will bring.I'm very happy with the Midi styles to a point that many of the same Yamaha styles that were on previous models can now be exchanged for the same ones on the S950 with much better quality sound. I hope this little demonstration has helped people understand Audio Drums a little better. Carry On
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#360359 - 02/04/13 05:27 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: montunoman]
Fran Carango Senior Member Registered: 05/26/99 Posts: 9673 Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA	Originally Posted By: montunoman Here�s my take after listening to each example. The Ketron Audya sounded most like a real drummer but a bit too busy for my taste. The Roland sounded the least realistic. The brushes, cymbal and especially the congas gave it a very unnatural sound. The Yamaha 950 seemed to strike the best balance as far as natural sound and feel. I hope we hear some Korg and compare some other styles. I really like these comparisons as it helps make more informed decisions. How many stores in the U.S. could you compare side by side a Ketron, Roland and Yamaha Paul, we have a slight difference of opinion I recall a time that I thought Roland cymbals seemed lack luster..everybody else was clanging loud, and seemed to be the normal.. Then I listened closely to real acoustic drums...Roland in fact is dead on...They are very realistic.. Roland V-drums are considered to be the best in the business.. They react to dynamics..and are not full on..They sound like acoustic sets...unmiked as they should.. What you mentioned as balanced with the Yamaha midi set..the ride is annoying at best..it is louder than the drums...Just as annoying as a lousy drummer For you guys that are use to the unrealistic statis quote drums..Roland has the tools to make the drums and cymbals just as annoying if you like _________________________ www.francarango.com
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#360370 - 02/04/13 07:19 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Tonewheeldude]
travlin'easy Senior Member Registered: 12/08/02 Posts: 15563 Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA	"status quote?" What the Hell is Status Quote? And, after patiently listening to all the posted drums, I agree with Paul. Of course, I'm old and deaf, therefore what I hear or say really doesn't count. Gary _________________________ PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff! K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)
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#360379 - 02/04/13 09:37 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Tonewheeldude]
Sokratis 1974 Member Registered: 06/06/10 Posts: 793 Loc: Hellas, Creta, Iraklion	Originally Posted By: Tonewheeldude Thank You for posting the PSR950 recordings. I did not think any Yamaha owners would man up actually - well done! As Diki pointed out, At the moment we are comparing Mid range keyboards with Audya which is a little unfair, so we still need Korg PA3X and Yamaha's Flagship the Tyros 4 (which came out after the Audya so should be in the running) Hi Darren... Today I will create demos for my Pa3x... However, I agree.... Audya is too much Live!!!!! I am happy with my Audya!!! Edited by Sokratis 1974 (02/04/13 09:39 PM) _________________________ Style Producer Ketron Event, Ketron Audya 76, Audya 5, SD9, SD1,Yamaha Genos, Korg Pa3x, microarranger, Roland Fantom G6, V-Synth XT, XV-5080, SH201, D-50, Novation KS4, Dave Smith Evolver
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#360404 - 02/05/13 02:53 AM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Tonewheeldude]
Sokratis 1974 Member Registered: 06/06/10 Posts: 793 Loc: Hellas, Creta, Iraklion	Ok... Here is and Pa3x demos... I recorded in Cubase_6 from SPDIF (Digital Record 48khz), normalize and export to MP3 (320kbps)... Swing Band.mp3 Acoustic Shufle.mp3 Bossa Nova.mp3 BeBop.mp3 Edited by Sokratis 1974 (02/05/13 02:57 AM) _________________________ Style Producer Ketron Event, Ketron Audya 76, Audya 5, SD9, SD1,Yamaha Genos, Korg Pa3x, microarranger, Roland Fantom G6, V-Synth XT, XV-5080, SH201, D-50, Novation KS4, Dave Smith Evolver
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#360409 - 02/05/13 04:36 AM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Tonewheeldude]
Dnj Senior Member Registered: 09/21/00 Posts: 43703	Sokratis nice job....I didn't like the resonance of the snare on the first demo swing band,.....but, the rest of them sounded real nice and live!
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#360412 - 02/05/13 05:23 AM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Dnj]
montunoman Senior Member Registered: 10/20/09 Posts: 3208 Loc: Dallas, Texas	Originally Posted By: Dnj Sokratis nice job....I didn't like the resonance of the snare on the first demo swing band,.....but, the rest of them sounded real nice and live! I agree, but I guess the the beauty of midi- you can change the drum kits easily. _________________________ It not the keyboard, it's the keyboardist. www.youtube.com/channel/UCV94i--V-A8kZShmGTKyDOw https://www.facebook.com/elgrupocache
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#360424 - 02/05/13 09:10 AM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Sokratis 1974]
tony mads usa Senior Member Registered: 01/16/02 Posts: 14376 Loc: East Greenwich RI USA	Originally Posted By: Sokratis 1974 Ok... Here is and Pa3x demos... I recorded in Cubase_6 from SPDIF (Digital Record 48khz), normalize and export to MP3 (320kbps)... Swing Band.mp3 Acoustic Shufle.mp3 Bossa Nova.mp3 BeBop.mp3 I love the BeBop Style Variation 4 that allows you to play 'fours' with the drummer ... when I was first trying this style on my Pa600 and the accomp stopped I thought 'what the heck is going on?!?' ... when I realized, it blew me away ... _________________________ t.
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#360432 - 02/05/13 11:15 AM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: tony mads usa]
Diki Registered: 04/25/05 Posts: 14203 Loc: NW Florida	OK, here's some BK-7m examples with the Master compressor off, but EQ still on (sounds a hair tubby on pro studio monitors, but will probably be better on computer speakers). BTW, recorded straight to the simple audio recorder in the BK-7m, then converted to MP3's in iTunes. No particular style selection, just a bunch of randomly selected ones... Attachments AcousticPop 1.mp3 (105 downloads) Acoustic Pop 2.mp3 (30 downloads) _________________________ An arranger is just a tool. What matters is what you build with it..!
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#360433 - 02/05/13 11:16 AM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Diki]
Diki Registered: 04/25/05 Posts: 14203 Loc: NW Florida	Two more Attachments Toms Swing.mp3 (46 downloads) Jazz 2.mp3 (37 downloads) _________________________ An arranger is just a tool. What matters is what you build with it..!
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