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#360117 - 02/02/13 05:48 AM Re: OT 70s & 80s Rock portable for the oldies to carry [Re: bruno123]
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Originally Posted By: bruno123
I wonder if Organs will ever make their way back; after all what we are playing is one level of an organ.

My first Wersi Organ had a removable top – it separated from the Amp. and pedals. I was great but I bit too classy for who the people I was playing for. The sounds were too clean.

John C.


something interesting is happening. Up until recently the two Organs in the music school are unused except for the odd retired person, but in the last year or so, more youngsters have been asking about the instruments as they have never seen them before! 5 or six years ago, the teenagers coming in for lessons equated the organs with 'one like Grandads'...but it seems like the biggest majority of organ players have now, erm...moved onto greener pastures, so the current crop of teenagers are new to the organ. We have a few of our youngsters learning to play.

If one of the manufacturers was to do a relaunch with an education program aimed at a young player (with suitable material) its just possible it might take off.

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#360118 - 02/02/13 06:34 AM Re: OT 70s & 80s Rock portable for the oldies to carry [Re: abacus]
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This was also alluded too by Robert Bartha at last years Frankfurt Musikmesse.

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#360125 - 02/02/13 08:15 AM Re: OT 70s & 80s Rock portable for the oldies to carry [Re: abacus]
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Thanks for the link, its good Wersi are recognising there could be a younger audience. Out of all the manufacturers, I would like Yamaha to pull away from the tired Tyros concept and move back to organs as they have the power to market properly. Not the Stagea type method of playing (big orchestral anthems) by registrations, instead simple, live sounding and interactive stuff that will appeal to younger people.

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#360137 - 02/02/13 11:12 AM Re: OT 70s & 80s Rock portable for the oldies to carry [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
The only generation that venerates organs can't lift them any more...

Just sayin'!

You can't get anyone here to even move a 45lb arranger!

Oh, fiddlesticks! Here I am pushing 70 and schlepping my Pa1XPro like a young 'un. Just call me Tarzan II. rocker

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#360140 - 02/02/13 12:17 PM Re: OT 70s & 80s Rock portable for the oldies to carry [Re: 124]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
The only generation that venerates organs can't lift them any more...

Just sayin'!

You can't get anyone here to even move a 45lb arranger!

Oh, fiddlesticks! Here I am pushing 70 and schlepping my Pa1XPro like a young 'un. Just call me Tarzan II. rocker


Thank goodness for the Rock N Roller... wink

http://rocknroller-multicart.myshopify.com/

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#360161 - 02/02/13 03:55 PM Re: OT 70s & 80s Rock portable for the oldies to carry [Re: bruno123]
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Originally Posted By: bruno123
I wonder if Organs will ever make their way back; after all what we are playing is one level of an organ.


In fairness, what we are playing is TWO manuals of an organ! Those older organs couldn't split the manual, so one would have been dedicated to the lower sound or any auto-accompaniment it was capable of, while our RH played the upper manual doing the solo sound.

Now, of course, one manual does BOTH jobs. And much, much more. In something a tiny fraction of the size and weight. Bottom line is, who in their right mind wants to go back to one of these relics for anything other than nostalgia?
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#360174 - 02/02/13 07:25 PM Re: OT 70s & 80s Rock portable for the oldies to carry [Re: Diki]
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I wonder if there is a ATA case with wheels for it yet? I hope my back will hold up moving between gigs rotfl organ


Edited by SpclEd (02/02/13 07:25 PM)

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#360181 - 02/02/13 11:29 PM Re: OT 70s & 80s Rock portable for the oldies to carry [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
The only generation that venerates organs can't lift them any more...

Just sayin'!

You can't get anyone here to even move a 45lb arranger!


When were any of us able to lift a 2 manual organ single handedly wink

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#360182 - 02/03/13 01:31 AM Re: OT 70s & 80s Rock portable for the oldies to carry [Re: Nigel]
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
Originally Posted By: Diki
The only generation that venerates organs can't lift them any more...

Just sayin'!

You can't get anyone here to even move a 45lb arranger!


When were any of us able to lift a 2 manual organ single handedly wink


I have been for years smile but thankfully they are much lighter now - the KeyB Duo weighs 26 kilos, even Pizza Express Jazz club in Soho with the nasty stairs down the side is easy.

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#360192 - 02/03/13 03:09 AM Re: OT 70s & 80s Rock portable for the oldies to carry [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
Originally Posted By: bruno123
I wonder if Organs will ever make their way back; after all what we are playing is one level of an organ.


In fairness, what we are playing is TWO manuals of an organ! Those older organs couldn't split the manual, so one would have been dedicated to the lower sound or any auto-accompaniment it was capable of, while our RH played the upper manual doing the solo sound.

Now, of course, one manual does BOTH jobs. And much, much more. In something a tiny fraction of the size and weight. Bottom line is, who in their right mind wants to go back to one of these relics for anything other than nostalgia?


The thing is though Diki, organs have had split points for over 25 years so they are the equivalent of having 4 or 5 manuals, (Not a measly 2) plus they are far more flexible when playing live.

As to carrying them, if you come over to Europe you will find Men & Women, Young & Old carrying them without problems, (The same applies in Asia) its only in the US that folks seem to have problems.

Bill
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