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#357180 - 12/21/12 06:09 AM Re: Create new acoustic piano (sample akai) on audya [Re: gokuss4]
Tonewheeldude Offline
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I still maintain it is better to make high quality programs than use massive raw samples.

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#357181 - 12/21/12 06:28 AM Re: Create new acoustic piano (sample akai) on audya [Re: gokuss4]
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i see, 180mb for 1 sound that most of us won't be able to load into our Audya's

this is what i mean, we don't need a 128mb chip or a 256mb chip

we need a 2gb chip at the very MINIMUM

or am i the only one who wants to load more than 2-3 sounds at a time?

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#357187 - 12/21/12 06:55 AM Re: Create new acoustic piano (sample akai) on audya [Re: gokuss4]
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I would rather have smaller samples with good quality programs, (exactly Like Socrates did with his excellent vintage Synth samples). That means faster load time and less space.

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#357188 - 12/21/12 06:58 AM Re: Create new acoustic piano (sample akai) on audya [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Me too...
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#357201 - 12/21/12 09:44 AM Re: Create new acoustic piano (sample akai) on audya [Re: leezone]
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leezone: ok I want 2gb too but....
what you do if you cannot create good program ?
1 layer, no stereo wavs ecc...
I maked fantastic sound for pa2x pro with low ram, but can mix internal sound, layer oscillator ecc.
Actually the ram is enought only for load original ins ketron and AJ instruments. there are something more ? where ?
Maybe you have done good sounds for audya only using MSP ?
maybe ketron has modivy msp editor in 5.0a ? who have try it ? for example if load wav stereo ?


maybe AJamsonic can sell as INS soundboard and software ?ahahah

else I think 128 is good
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#357217 - 12/21/12 11:36 AM Re: Create new acoustic piano (sample akai) on audya [Re: gokuss4]
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128mb RAM is average actually,
128mb RAM is great and absolutely amazing, like 12 years ago

we are about to start the year 2013
it's time to catch up Ketron

128mb is good if all you want to do is
load and play 1 good supersolo sound at a time

BUT not the new piano AJ is converting for gokuss4
that one is 180mb, sorry wink

pastroccio, you still think 128mb is good?


Edited by leezone (12/21/12 11:57 AM)

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#357255 - 12/21/12 11:00 PM Re: Create new acoustic piano (sample akai) on audya [Re: pastroccio]
Sokratis 1974 Offline
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Originally Posted By: pastroccio
leezone: ok I want 2gb too but....
what you do if you cannot create good program ?
1 layer, no stereo wavs ecc...
I maked fantastic sound for pa2x pro with low ram, but can mix internal sound, layer oscillator ecc.
Actually the ram is enought only for load original ins ketron and AJ instruments. there are something more ? where ?
Maybe you have done good sounds for audya only using MSP ?
maybe ketron has modivy msp editor in 5.0a ? who have try it ? for example if load wav stereo ?


maybe AJamsonic can sell as INS soundboard and software ?ahahah

else I think 128 is good

My friend Pastroccio..

1) In Audya we have up 3 layers in a program...
One layer we have only in a MSP, however you can to have 3 MSP,s in any program..

2) I have also Korg Pa3x and I had all previous models of Pa series, and Triton Classic, Triton Studio ..
Therefore nor in Korg like Pa Series you can to have a Stereo KMP file, but when you want to create a stereo KMP, (onboard) should to load your Stereo Wav, or AIFF file, and automaticaly when we saved, it will be converted to two Mono files L-R KSF (samples) files..
Therefore should to create two KMP files: KMP_Left, KMP_Right, and when we ready will be put the two files in a Sound, KMP_Left (L63) KMP_Right (R63 from AMP section....
With the same way we can create a stereo MSP (L-R) and to put in a Program of Audya...
Of course in a Korg Pa2xpro, Pa800, and Pa3x we have up to 24 layers...
Also in a korg we have a more choice to create a sound in a software Sampler (like Kontakt) and with a converter like Extreme Sample Converter to convert in Soundfont_2, and with Awave to create KMP,s...
However Believe me.... Although the synthesis engine of Audya is very poor in functions, we can with even one or two layers to we have a exellent sound, because the sound engine, behave with too much smooth way....
I managed to created with very easy way in Audya 17 Vintage Synth Sounds (and Stereo file also) without tiring...
This is my demo of sounds http://www.divshare.com/download/19179688-7ac


Edited by Sokratis 1974 (12/21/12 11:03 PM)
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#357260 - 12/22/12 12:30 AM Re: Create new acoustic piano (sample akai) on audya [Re: Sokratis 1974]
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thank's sokratis I know how work korg (and I love it), ok 3 layers in program, but about velocity ?
How you make your fantastic elettro acustic guitar if only 1 velocity of layer ? this I don't understand
how can load some piano if you cannot make different sample for velocity (2-3 would be good) ?
that's my problem!

leezone.. about ram ok, I can understand you. of course I would be happy to have 2 gb !!!
only at moment I not have so much sounds to tell "need 2gb ram"...128 or 256 good for AJ that I will have... that's all
why ? because I don't like to make sound in auyda. (in past all my time was for korg sounds)

about this new 180mg piano msp ? no.. I think ins
and about 2gb ram is only joke, dream or AJ really working on it ?


Edited by pastroccio (12/22/12 12:40 AM)
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#357266 - 12/22/12 03:02 AM Re: Create new acoustic piano (sample akai) on audya [Re: pastroccio]
Sokratis 1974 Offline
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Originally Posted By: pastroccio
thank's sokratis I know how work korg (and I love it), ok 3 layers in program, but about velocity ?
How you make your fantastic elettro acustic guitar if only 1 velocity of layer ? this I don't understand
how can load some piano if you cannot make different sample for velocity (2-3 would be good) ?
that's my problem!


Yes...
My Electroacoustic Guitar is 3 different (mono) layer...
After a few days I will send for all members...
For the Piano realy is big problem for Audya becouse we need 4 layers to have a good sound of Piano..(Soft layer L-R, Hard layer... It can only with INS files (only from Ketron) that it file can play Stereo files....
I have a create a very good Grand Piano (40mb Compress) in my Pa3x... Listen...

http://www.divshare.com/download/18483068-b64

From 0.00 up to 2,17 I play my Piano..
From 2,17 up to finish play the Pa3x piano..
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#357575 - 12/25/12 04:43 PM Re: Create new acoustic piano (sample akai) on audya [Re: Sokratis 1974]
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Gotta tell ya, I don't understand anything you said in that last post but that is some great playing and great piano sound you created.

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