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#356994 - 12/19/12 08:29 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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There are approximately 253,000,000 possible drawbar combinations on a B3; which 'Hammond sound' did you have in mind? Funny how it seems everyone on the forum claims to be an ex-Hammond player, having lugged a beat-up old B3 and one or two Leslies up an untold number of stairs to the numerous 2nd and 3rd floor gigs (so few bars and clubs are located at street level, it seems). They profess to constantly being on the lookout for the PERFECT 'Hammond' sound (much like the equally elusive perfect piano sound), yet on posted performances, I never hear the B3 sound featured (piano either, actually). The only time you'll hear either is if it's embedded in a factory style or in the MP3 or SMF being played over. So my question is, what's with this obsession with finding the 'perfect' Hammond sound? But, back to the topic question.
Yes, I have a MotionSound Pro 145 and a Leslie 3300. I also have a Nord C1 and a Nord C2D (drawbar version). I also play them with the built-in 'sim' through two EV Sx250 15" powered speakers. For the gigs I play, the EV's work best for me. In a side by side listening test, the Leslie is 1, the EV's 2, and the MS Pro145 3. But, as most of you know, a listening test does not always translate directly to gig conditions, and the versatility of placement along with a great sound, makes the PA speakers the best gig option.
BUT, the Hammond sound (in all of it's forms) is more than just a tone or sound reproduction. It's a way of playing, of using the Expression pedal, knowing when and how to use percussion, chorus, vibrato, etc. Knowing when to scream and when to just slide under that steamy, soulful guitar solo. It's having the bench and lower manual the exact right distance apart. It's the smell of stale beer.
So, is it the Leslie that defines the 'Hammond sound'? Maybe. Dunno. But I'm betting that if I dial up the registration that you like on my C2D and use the built-in rotary sim, you would be unwilling to bet your life (in a blind test) on whether it was a real leslie or not. That being the case, it's safe to say that the audience can't tell the difference either.
chas
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#357000 - 12/19/12 09:49 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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Due to the inherent nature of their electro-mechanical tone generation (tonewheels), even B-3's made in the same year, and/or even the same month would sound slightly different from one another.
They are instruments with different "personalities", and as it's been said above, there is no shrink-wrapped fossilized Hammond "sound"...it is, if you will, a mood, a style, a color that will vary with the player and/or type of music being played.
Sending your arranger's unprocessed (maybe a touch of reverb) drawbar organ section through a real tube amped Leslie (122/147) or a Neo Ventilator, will get you the closest, in my opinion, without needing to add an extra clonewheel tone module.
My favorite clonewheel is the Hammond XK3c (awesome authentic keybed), either through a real Leslie or through it's on-board rotary simulator.
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#357016 - 12/20/12 12:58 AM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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The drawbar organs in the Yamaha S-series have the proper perc triggering (and selection), as do the Tyros series...all are sampled without Leslie or effects, so would work well with an external rotary sim or cabinet. I've used the S910 and Tyros4 drawbar organ sections on a buddy's Leslie 147, and have tried a Neo Vent in store using the T4 and it sounded pretty authentic to my ears, and I was a Hammond B-3 player for many years.
Reverb (and distortion) send can be pre or post rotary effect, which also has variable ramp speeds and several tone cabinet models to choose from, even those using guitar amps (allegedly Marshall and HiWatt).
The Preset Organs are deliberately set up differently, with sampled chorus vibrato and/or rotary (no reverb), providing more variety and complimenting the organ flute (drawbar) section very well, indeed.
The preset SA organs in Tyros4 (especially Whiter Bars and Prog Rock), many of which are in S-series, are some of my favorite and most used organ sounds, with fast rotary on the mod wheel. A Whiter Shade of Pale sounds as close as I'd ever wish it to be, and the T4's added SA combo organs are perfect for the Door's, Light My Fire.
For the songs I use organ for, I'm totally content with using what's on my arranger (the T4), and I have no need of adding anything extra like a module or external Leslie or sim. It's nice to be able to keep things simple. I have even figured out how to get realistic Leslie speed changes in a style, and it sounds so cool.
I'm sure Korg's PA3X (and 600/500) would also be just as flexible and equally as useful...I suspect only the real die-hard purists would need (or want) to invest in additional gear.
Ian
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#357029 - 12/20/12 02:23 AM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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I will definitely ask them Diki.
Regarding the illusive "Hammond Sound", having worked for Hammond for 13 years and now with KeyB (My Father imports them into the UK) I can testify that...
Chas is totally right...and also totally wrong.
I quickly learned the Hammond sound is different from one person to another. For instance the retired Gentleman who owned a Hammond Elegante for 40 years will have a very different 'benchmark' to the young wippersnapper who owns an L100 and a beaten up 145 leslie running to the point of signal breakup (overdrive) and very different to the middle aged guy who used an X5 with a 760 for 10 years in the 70s.
And then you also have to consider the benchmark of the old Korg BX owners, XB2 owners etc.
So chas is right..peoples 'benchmark' of the Hammond sound (just like the electric Piano sound) is something personal to each player depending on their own instrument and favoured artis (e.g. Jimmy Smith vs Klaus Wunderlich)...but..
In dealing with literally hundreds of players across the face of the earth, there is one truth, one undeniable fact that all agree on and not a single one of these players will argue that a nice condition B3 through PR40 does not have the Hammond sound. And there is your point of reference. Even before the Leslie is added the fundamental sound generation has to be addressed.
Any Hammond clone needs to first emulate everything about the analogue nature of a B3 (or A100/C3), not just pure sinewaves as the B3 was anything but pure, but all the tiny details that build up the sound (the sligh random slap of the currect as contact touches bussbars, the gentle overtones as signal leaks through the resistance wires etc, etc, then effect such as vibrato and chorus need to be properly addressed. Only then can you think about simulating or reproducing the final effect..a Leslie.
So is Chas right when he says the Audience does not know when your using a reasonable hammond immitation? Yes he is right!
But, you put that exact same Audience in front of a B3 and Leslie and watch the difference in their response to the sound..boy do they know it! They might not know why its different, or even what is different but the reaction is completely tangible and electric. I have seen this happen so many times over the years.
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#357058 - 12/20/12 08:53 AM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tonewheeldude]
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I will definitely ask them Diki.
Regarding the illusive "Hammond Sound", having worked for Hammond for 13 years and now with KeyB (My Father imports them into the UK) I can testify that...
Chas is totally right...and also totally wrong.
I quickly learned the Hammond sound is different from one person to another. For instance the retired Gentleman who owned a Hammond Elegante for 40 years will have a very different 'benchmark' to the young wippersnapper who owns an L100 and a beaten up 145 leslie running to the point of signal breakup (overdrive) and very different to the middle aged guy who used an X5 with a 760 for 10 years in the 70s.
And then you also have to consider the benchmark of the old Korg BX owners, XB2 owners etc.
So chas is right..peoples 'benchmark' of the Hammond sound (just like the electric Piano sound) is something personal to each player depending on their own instrument and favoured artis (e.g. Jimmy Smith vs Klaus Wunderlich)...but..
In dealing with literally hundreds of players across the face of the earth, there is one truth, one undeniable fact that all agree on and not a single one of these players will argue that a nice condition B3 through PR40 does not have the Hammond sound. And there is your point of reference. Even before the Leslie is added the fundamental sound generation has to be addressed.
Any Hammond clone needs to first emulate everything about the analogue nature of a B3 (or A100/C3), not just pure sinewaves as the B3 was anything but pure, but all the tiny details that build up the sound (the sligh random slap of the currect as contact touches bussbars, the gentle overtones as signal leaks through the resistance wires etc, etc, then effect such as vibrato and chorus need to be properly addressed. Only then can you think about simulating or reproducing the final effect..a Leslie.
So is Chas right when he says the Audience does not know when your using a reasonable hammond immitation? Yes he is right!
But, you put that exact same Audience in front of a B3 and Leslie and watch the difference in their response to the sound..boy do they know it! They might not know why its different, or even what is different but the reaction is completely tangible and electric. I have seen this happen so many times over the years. TWD, To be honest I don't know of anyone out there who knows more about Hammonds than you do and I agree with everything you have said here, hence your SZ name TWD. If you want the Hammond sound buy an old lump and a good Leslie speaker and start practising left hand, stop trying to pretend your KB sounds and feels like a Hammond, yours was made in Italy 
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#357072 - 12/20/12 10:43 AM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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Yes, a Hammond is a Hammond, alright...425 lbs. of furniture, and most, if not all, in the listening audience couldn't tell it from a well done clonewheel that weighs less than the music rack on a B-3.  Ian
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#357079 - 12/20/12 11:19 AM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Dnj]
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Yes, a Hammond is a Hammond, alright...425 lbs. of furniture, and most, if not all, in the listening audience couldn't tell it from a well done clonewheel that weighs less than the music rack on a B-3. Ian Ian you are so wrong and Yamatized.....  nothing sounds like a B3 w/a 147 Leslie.....everything else is part of the GREATNESS that is the HAMMOND Sound!  Words such as these coming from a true Korgian devotee, Donny...I'm impressed. I think you owe it to yourself to buy a B-3 and start carting it around, and use it to hold up your little Korg.  In the real world, most of the audience wouldn't know a real B-3 from a good clonewheel, even though a Hammond is a Hammond. In fact, in a blind test, most of us who even played Hammonds for many years, would have a tough time discerning the genuine article from one of the more recent clones. I'm just glad that lugging around that big piece of furniture is a thing of the past. My Tyros4 does an exemplary job of mimicking a Hammond and it's only 390 lbs lighter!  Ian
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#357086 - 12/20/12 11:39 AM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: ianmcnll]
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Several years ago, I bought a C from a church in my hometown...pristine condition, with a Hammond cabinet and C 60 cabinet. A well-off member bought the church a Rogers.
My B stays at a Faculty/Alumni Club, where I play it with a duo or trio for jazz nights-usually, about 4 nights a month.
There is another faculty club on campus (The original one is in an old mansion on a historic horse farm now owned by the University), and the members there want jazz Sunday afternoons.
I'm thinking about refinishing the C and cabinets in white. It will sit at 90 degrees to an ebony Steinway grand.
The B has to be moved into position for each gig. The C will stay in one place in a large lobby/reception area...thus, the refinish job.
I'll probably use a Synth over the C (probably a "slightly used" Roland SH-201) and something like the Nord Electro over the grand, for strings, Rhodes and Vibes.
GOTTA LOVE IT!
Russ
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#357087 - 12/20/12 11:40 AM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Many of the acts that play the casinos here request B3s with their backline requirements. My friend at the music store has several and he sends a truck with two guys, leslies, dollies, etc., and has everything all set up for them.
You'd be surprised how many still request DX7s!
He makes more off one backline setup than he would in six months of selling arrangers at the price he has to make them now. So he doesn't sell arrangers any more. By the time he buys the arrangers, pays freight, and of course has to charge sales tax, he can't compete with the on line guys and make it worthwhile. If he gets stuck holding one or two that don't sell, he is in the hole, and this is such a small market chances are they won't all sell. BTW he has a BK5 that can be bought RIGHT.
I'm pretty sure Vanilla Fudge had roadies!
DonM
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#357090 - 12/20/12 12:12 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: DonM]
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Many of the acts that play the casinos here request B3s with their backline requirements. My friend at the music store has several and he sends a truck with two guys, leslies, dollies, etc., and has everything all set up for them.
You'd be surprised how many still request DX7s!
He makes more off one backline setup than he would in six months of selling arrangers at the price he has to make them now. Wow! He is doing very well. Having the stuff there all set up for you is far better than lugging a big 425 lb. Hammond B-3, or the even heavier C-3, which is why most touring groups have such requirements at their next venue. Some players do carry a real Leslie to run their chosen clonewheel through, the former is usually boxed and mic'd. DX-7's are especially popular with groups doing 80's music, as there was hardly a song during that era that didn't have the ubiquitous DX-7 E. Piano or the DX-7 Bass featured in the mix. I've got oodles of DX-7 sounds on my Tyros4, including several realistic versions of that characteristic, and somewhat overused Electric Piano, and they still come in handy for certain tunes. Ian
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#357095 - 12/20/12 12:47 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: ianmcnll]
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Ian, I have only used my old Hohner one time in the last year, on a short recording (commercial, actually). It's pretty fragile and the reeds are hard to work on. The repair guy for my Hammonds and other older equipment is in his mid-70's and always busy.
I got mine from a customer about 10 years ago. His Dad played the hell out of it...so much so that the cover was almost gone and many of the reeds were bad. I put it back together, but it's like an old restored car...pretty and neat, but you wouldn't want to drive it to California and back.
The DX-7 is a little more stable and gets played 4 times a
month.
BTW: Like everyone else, I tried to play the intro to Superstition like the recording and was never satisfied. Then, last year, I found an article that said that Stevie used about 13 tracks on that piano part and delayed some of the synchronization, making it nearly impossible for one person to play the piece live. If you listen closely, you can hear multiple strikes on notes.
R.
(Not sure what the model is. Think it's a D, but got it as a basket case).
Edited by captain Russ (12/20/12 01:04 PM)
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#357100 - 12/20/12 01:26 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tony Hughes]
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there's not many people around now that want to sit and listen to Hammond sounds, most are dead, twas an acquired taste anyway not for everyone and bit like the Beatles, I couldn't stand them, jazz played on a Hammond either, no sense to it.... Don't know too many MUSICIANS that would make that kind of statement, Tony, especially the "no sense to it" part. I'm not a big fan of Country music, but I'm not prepared to write it off. Although not my favorite genre', there are just too many individual Country songs and artists that I DO like (Willie Nelson is my favorite, he's like the Snoop Dog of Country music....but with a good heart). Personally, I think there are probably nearly as many fans of (Hammond) organ jazz as there are of classical or theatre organ (maybe not in Europe). I don't think there are many people that like both. I think the Hammond was invented partly as an affordable replacement for the hugely expensive pipe organs of the time. Failed miserably at it but found a new niche as a popular instrument in popular music. Never looked back and it's unique sound has endured and prospered to this day. "no sense to it" or just no sense to it TO YOU. From now on, if you want to pick on something, Tony, pick on.......the Accordion (just kidding, TonyMad, just kidding  ). chas
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#357102 - 12/20/12 01:38 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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I had a TX81Z and an FB01. The TX81Z was midied to early arrangers, like Technics KN800. The FB01 was midied to DX7, and later a V50. An Alesis drum machine was also in the midi line. And I used a Yamaha processor for pitch shift, sort of a do-it-yourself vocal harmonizer. Also used a pedal phase shifter for pseudo leslie effect. Of course this called for a really big mixer, a couple of effects units, graphic equalizer, BBE, compressor/limiter, etc.
Today, we can get all this for $1500. in a 25-pound package!
Ain't life GREAT!?
DonM
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#357143 - 12/20/12 10:47 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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Hi Guys, There must be a bit of truth in what I say because only two of you have come in support of the Hammond ( as I knew you would) and one for the Beatles, not a true representation of SZ is it. unless like me the other don't care, many more may dive in now. When we play our KB I suppose it his nice to try to emulate the music we are play as close as possible to the original, it turns people's heads, Whiter Shade of Pale, Telstar and so on, the measure of how good a AKB is, is how much it sounds like the original when we play. On my T4 I have Wersi samples, Wurlitzer and some Hammond samples, they all sound good, but how good I don't know. I do care because I too would like people to say, hell that's like the original. I am not going to lose friends because it doesn't. Tom I agree with you that there is nothing at all like the sound of a Hammond, stop trying to emulate it on a plastic arranger, they sound good but they are not there yet and never will be, read what TWD says about emulating a Hammond , he's your man on Hammond's, him and is dad know more about Hammonds than anyone I know... I hope you all have a very happy Christmas and your bank balances reflect it after..  Tony Can any of you play like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEr-AKJr-LI hells you can't LOL or make your arranger sound like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jKme27M6xU You built them in the US of A and now all kit is biult in Italy, whatever happened.
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#357147 - 12/20/12 11:38 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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When the Lexus was first produced a team of Toyota engineers roamed the World recording the sounds of car door shutting, they visited UK, USA, Europe, went into all the car showrooms and recorded them, people perceive if you shut a car door and it sounds like a train door solid then the car is good, sounds similar to what we try to do with AKBs, next time you see a Lexus try closing the doors and listen, I think they got it right, sounds just like a C3 if you listen closley, or I have I got C3s ringing in the brain, whats left of it...
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#357160 - 12/21/12 03:01 AM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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I remember Ethel would rent my B-3 every time she came to Palm Beach to perform, although, she was about three times the age she was in the video. This was in the seventies.
She was a crotchity PIA.
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#357212 - 12/21/12 10:55 AM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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You don't "play" a Hammond B-3...you "ride" it. Nothing "feels" or plays like a Hammond...the closest I've used is a double manual Hammond XK3c that allegedly uses the identical keybed and multiple contacts. However, my back thanks me every time I use the Tyros4...my old 1958 B-3 (all 425 lbs. of it) is still going, as are the two Leslie 147RV...it's now in a buddy's living room and still sounds as sweet and soulful as ever. Speaking of transpose buttons...best things they ever put on a keyboard. There was more than one night I wished the old B-3 had them, but, then again, not having them certainly added to my musical education. Do I "need" transpose buttons? Nope. Do I "want" them? You bet! Slicker than frog hair! Ian
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#357218 - 12/21/12 12:00 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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Hi Tom,
I had a M-3 before I went bonkers for a B...used a 147RV (147 with reverb) with it, and when I bought the B-3 I bought a second 147RV cabinet.
The M-3 was manageable with two guys, but the B-3 was a whole different animal, even with the strap on handles/dollies. The C-3 was worse, but it's cabinet apparently stood up better to moving due to not having the seperate legs like the B-3.
Keyboard players back then needed a van or truck just for their gear alone.
Ian
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#357232 - 12/21/12 01:36 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
[Re: Tom Cavanaugh]
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I've played the C2D, Chas...the sliders are very nice indeed, and do not feel cheap, but I guess I'm more attracted to the more B-3 like drawbars on the XK-3c...even the much less expensive Hammond XK-1 has very nice feeling drawbars (and same rotary sim as XK3c). I must say, though, I was very impressed with the Nord's key feel...very fast and smooth. I probably could get to like Nord's sliders/drawbars as they are a darn sight better than my Tyros4's sliders for drawbar changes.
As far as overall authenticity, the Nord's sound is easily the equal of the current Hammond models, including the Chorus Vibrato, which I think they have nailed dead on. The C2D is also very light, especially for a two manual instrument, but I still have a fondness for the XK3c dual manual, even though it's a lot fussier to set up and break down...the Nord can be carried under your arm...pretty cool.
I tried Hammond's new SK-2, which is more in line with the weight and portability of the Nord C2D, and if I had to choose between them, I think I'd go with the latter. I thought the SK-2 felt a tad cheap compared to the Nord.
The SA and drawbar organs in the Tyros4 are fine for the several organ tunes I play on arranger, but if I was playing in a combo, I'd want a two manual dedicated organ instrument. I also really like the XK3c's reversed color key presets that are located in the same place as the B-3, and with the right setup you can get some really effective wah-wah type effects by alternating between two presets.
If and when there was a rhythm guitarist at the jam where I play my old B-3, giving my left hand more freedom, I used to love doing solos while manipulating the drawbars...you probably know how cool those bars can constantly shade a single note line harmonically.
Have you tried the KeyB Duo that TWD mentioned?
Ian
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#357250 - 12/21/12 10:12 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
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Hammonds are terrible to maintain and move.
I LOVE THEM! I have a B-3, C-3 M1 and an old 1949 M.
Leslies: 145, 147RV and C-60.
I am so lucky that one has a permanent home and gets played regularly.
When Big jobs come along, if needed, I move the B-3.
Russ (evidently, nearly dead) Lay Russ, Why can't you post some pictures of your setup before you pass on,  we would love to see and hear if it's at all possible, and if it as to be jazz well so be it  BTW take some pics of you changing the oil on the Hammonds too ...  Tony
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#357430 - 12/23/12 12:48 PM
Re: That Hammond sound?
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Edited by Dnj (12/23/12 12:50 PM)
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#357630 - 12/26/12 10:56 AM
Re: That Hammond sound?
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there's not many people around now that want to sit and listen to Hammond sounds, most are dead, twas an acquired taste anyway not for everyone and bit like the Beatles, I couldn't stand them, jazz played on a Hammond either, no sense to it.... 
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