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#350482 - 09/05/12 10:14 PM
Regrets for selling Audya
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 3456
Loc: South Africa
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Hi all,
Just a little interesting news. My friend had his Audya for nearly four years before I could make a plan to buy it from him. He hardly used it at all, but rather focused on his Tyros 2.
Well, after listening to those poor quality demos I posted yesterday, he regretted his decision to sell & wanted to buy it back. What do you think my answer was to him - EXACTLY!!!
I really suspect that many others that gave up on the Audya regret their decision today. It does not take a knowledge of rocket science to realize that no other arranger is even remotely able to do what the Audya does so effortlessly.
For the very first time in my life I get no butterflies in my tummy when I read about the soon to be released new arrangers. Honestly, it's like hearing any other non musical related news and it does not even grab my attention, not even for a split second. I've NEVER been like this before. I always had a keen interest in all upcoming new arrangers and collected more videos & demos of these than most. My hard drive is literally littered with both audio & video demos.
I can no longer operate without those live guitars, live in your face drums with excellent fills and funky bass riffs. And I only realize now (as I write this) that I've not even started with the user selectable "grooves" in channel 2, just under the drums. Heck, I do not even know what that does & maybe I'll be even more amazed once I do...
And still to come for me is:
1. OS42B (I'm still on 20C due to a silly mistake I made)
2. 2011 Sound & style upgrade
3. 2012 Style upgrade
4. The complete AJAMSONIC upgrade including more ram
I am so happy for discovering the Audya. It's going to change our lives...And my soon to come sound & style upgrades will improve it even more!!!
Keep well all my friends,
Henni
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Make sure you'll fly forever!
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#350493 - 09/06/12 12:39 AM
Re: Regrets for selling Audya
[Re: BobbyP]
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 3456
Loc: South Africa
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Hi all,
Found this somewhere. Even if the author should choose to fry me for doing so, I want to post over here. So here goes...
...and owned an Audya for nearly two years, playing it on the job nearly every night.
Yes, you are right about the lack of service available, BUT, I can think of very little else that Yamaha has that is as good as anything on the Audya, including sounds. One exception is that Yamaha has better factory OTS settings. You need to mostly do your own on Ketron. Audya does not have multipads, but similar settings are easily assignable to a system that uses assignable keys. In other words, you can pick a note and assign to it anything that is in a multipad, plus much more, including wav and/or midi playback.
The vocal processing is wonderful, the harmonizer is as good as anything I've heard, including dedicated third party models. The lead sounds are authentic instrument sounds. Yes, there is not as much processing done in the presets, but it is there if you want it. The key bed is WAY better than Yamaha. And, I've never heard of having to replace a strip under the keys on a Ketron. they are made of metal and built like a tank.
The drums and bass are like having live players in your band on stage with you. They make variations, if you want them to, in keeping with either key pressure or complexity of right-hand notes played.
There are LOTS of audio drums used in the styles, and have been for many years. (The PSR950 is the first Yamaha to have this, and only on 25 styles.) Also Audya has audio guitars in many styles. (Thus the name). You can use either the audio version or the midi version if you choose to do so, using the onboard style editor. You can do it in real time, while you are playing if you wish.
There are multiple fully assignable switches. There are dedicated hard sliders for each style part, without going into menus.
Audya has your choice of 76-note, 61-note and module configurations.
There are many more breaks and fills than even the Tyros line. In fact there is a choice of 4 break/fills for each style variation, not including the individual fills for pattern variations. You can assign the fills to key pressure if you wish, and you can assign vocal harmony variations to style variations if you wish. For example, maybe a single third above on var. 1, two voices on var. 2, a chorus on var. 3 and a special comedy sound on var. 4.
There are economical, light-weight 7 and 13 switch pedal controllers available. There are multiple assignable outputs in addition to the main outs. Some are splittable, giving the capability of 8 separate out puts for studio work.
The registration system (actually two systems) is far advanced from the Yamaha, and new registrations can be saved with a single button touch (not four separate save processes as necessary on Yamaha).
The start-up file saves EVERYTHING you want it to, including all vocal processing and harmonizer settings, all user preferences, etc.
It plays wav, MP3, and midi files of course, and they can be integrated as you wish with the styles. It has banks of audio loops and samples, also easily integrated with the styles.
Instead of requiring you buy a new model every year or so, they offer many free upgrades and many free additional styles.
These are only a few examples that come to mind of the cutting-edge technology that Audya offers.
Bad news is that Ketron is a small, independent Italian company that lacks sophistication in communications, marketing and customer service. They close totally for two months out of the year and during that time don't even answer the phone or emails.
The US distributors are nice guys, but keyboards are not the mainstay of their business, rather more of a sideline. The US marketing system, and service system, is pretty much non-existent. I DO have AJ's cell number and he calls me back. But there is way too much for one guy to handle, in addition to his other personal projects and interests. Even though he is THE Ketron guy, it is not a full-time position, as far as I can tell!...
That's his opinion and he is well known and respected.
My friend, I hope you can forgive me for taking the liberty to post your stuff here. However, the Audya needs true exposure after all the negative hype and I intend to see to that.
Everywhere I send those poor quality demos of mine, I get "WOOOOooooooooowwwwwww"!!! without exception. When my friend heard it, he wanted his Audya back....Ha ha ha, joke of the year. As if I'll let go!!!
Keep well all my friends,
Henni
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Make sure you'll fly forever!
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#350495 - 09/06/12 02:30 AM
Re: Regrets for selling Audya
[Re: Henni]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5508
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Hi Henni
Thank you for the comprehensive description of the Audya. It needed to be said.
Bernie
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pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
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#350562 - 09/06/12 09:14 PM
Re: Regrets for selling Audya
[Re: Machetero]
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 3456
Loc: South Africa
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..What style do you use to record the song MORELOVE. Hi Machetero, I think it was my version of "English Tune" or something to that effect. I found either under my OS20C factory styles or "Best Audya Styles" download. I remember though that between these two directories, that there are two different versions of it. You'll find it there. ...I'm interested in how you created the songs as well. Hi kharri,
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1. I create a new folder called "I like"
2. Next I start listening one by one to all the styles I have. If anything grabs my attention, I copy and past to my "I like" folder. This takes up a lot of time, even weeks maybe.
3. When I find a good intro or ending on an otherwise poor style, I'll save these seperately for later use.
4. When I'm done, I start to listen to every single style in my "I like" folder. Because everything in there grabs my attention and inspires me, I'll thoroughly enjoy listening to all of them one by one and this do not feel tedeous at all anymore.
5. Every so often a song would come to mind whilst I'm being higly inspired. I then save it immediately as an registration with the song title as it's name.
6. I repeat "4. & 5." for as long as I have this arranger. Everytime I do this, more songs spring to mind.
7. Later I'll start tweaking some of the styles in my "I like" folder. In my Yamaha, I started copying intros & endings that are nice to some of my favourite styles. Even some complete variations from other styles. (I like to start with a soft ballad in variation 1 and build it up to a rock version in variation 4. This is just the way I like to perform.)
The above is just the way I like to do it & it works well for me. Yes, there are some good styles and also some common ones out there. The above is the only way I've found to date to sift through them all... ...Any particular place you get the music (melody, chords)? Sorry my friend, cannot help you there. I cannot read music. I just play back what I hear. As for registrations, I started a topic to share those, but no one was interested. The most easy thing to do on the fly for the Audya. Go for it! Keep well all my friends, Henni
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#350819 - 09/10/12 09:29 AM
Re: Regrets for selling Audya
[Re: Henni]
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Hi all,
Found this somewhere. Even if the author should choose to fry me for doing so, I want to post over here. So here goes...
...and owned an Audya for nearly two years, playing it on the job nearly every night.
Yes, you are right about the lack of service available, BUT, I can think of very little else that Yamaha has that is as good as anything on the Audya, including sounds. One exception is that Yamaha has better factory OTS settings. You need to mostly do your own on Ketron. Audya does not have multipads, but similar settings are easily assignable to a system that uses assignable keys. In other words, you can pick a note and assign to it anything that is in a multipad, plus much more, including wav and/or midi playback.
The vocal processing is wonderful, the harmonizer is as good as anything I've heard, including dedicated third party models. The lead sounds are authentic instrument sounds. Yes, there is not as much processing done in the presets, but it is there if you want it. The key bed is WAY better than Yamaha. And, I've never heard of having to replace a strip under the keys on a Ketron. they are made of metal and built like a tank.
The drums and bass are like having live players in your band on stage with you. They make variations, if you want them to, in keeping with either key pressure or complexity of right-hand notes played.
There are LOTS of audio drums used in the styles, and have been for many years. (The PSR950 is the first Yamaha to have this, and only on 25 styles.) Also Audya has audio guitars in many styles. (Thus the name). You can use either the audio version or the midi version if you choose to do so, using the onboard style editor. You can do it in real time, while you are playing if you wish.
There are multiple fully assignable switches. There are dedicated hard sliders for each style part, without going into menus.
Audya has your choice of 76-note, 61-note and module configurations.
There are many more breaks and fills than even the Tyros line. In fact there is a choice of 4 break/fills for each style variation, not including the individual fills for pattern variations. You can assign the fills to key pressure if you wish, and you can assign vocal harmony variations to style variations if you wish. For example, maybe a single third above on var. 1, two voices on var. 2, a chorus on var. 3 and a special comedy sound on var. 4.
There are economical, light-weight 7 and 13 switch pedal controllers available. There are multiple assignable outputs in addition to the main outs. Some are splittable, giving the capability of 8 separate out puts for studio work.
The registration system (actually two systems) is far advanced from the Yamaha, and new registrations can be saved with a single button touch (not four separate save processes as necessary on Yamaha).
The start-up file saves EVERYTHING you want it to, including all vocal processing and harmonizer settings, all user preferences, etc.
It plays wav, MP3, and midi files of course, and they can be integrated as you wish with the styles. It has banks of audio loops and samples, also easily integrated with the styles.
Instead of requiring you buy a new model every year or so, they offer many free upgrades and many free additional styles.
These are only a few examples that come to mind of the cutting-edge technology that Audya offers.
Bad news is that Ketron is a small, independent Italian company that lacks sophistication in communications, marketing and customer service. They close totally for two months out of the year and during that time don't even answer the phone or emails.
The US distributors are nice guys, but keyboards are not the mainstay of their business, rather more of a sideline. The US marketing system, and service system, is pretty much non-existent. I DO have AJ's cell number and he calls me back. But there is way too much for one guy to handle, in addition to his other personal projects and interests. Even though he is THE Ketron guy, it is not a full-time position, as far as I can tell!...
That's his opinion and he is well known and respected.
My friend, I hope you can forgive me for taking the liberty to post your stuff here. However, the Audya needs true exposure after all the negative hype and I intend to see to that.
Everywhere I send those poor quality demos of mine, I get "WOOOOooooooooowwwwwww"!!! without exception. When my friend heard it, he wanted his Audya back....Ha ha ha, joke of the year. As if I'll let go!!!
Keep well all my friends,
Henni Henni, no problem with me regarding the post I made. DonM
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DonM
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