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#347721 - 07/24/12 12:03 PM What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have?
Diki Offline


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Try this on...

What is the ONE thing (let's keep it simple, and prioritize) that YOUR arranger doesn't have, that another does, and you wished you had it?

Mine of course is predictable... Chord Sequencer! Mind you, Korg's needs work. Why they didn't simply copy Roland I have no idea. Takes them four buttons to do the exact same thing as three on a Roland, and the stupid thing doesn't transpose when you transpose the keyboard!

But that's it. ONE thing....

What's yours?
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#347723 - 07/24/12 12:14 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
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I can't name one thing..I need to name two....yes the chord sequencer of yesteryear...and I would love to have the media playback of the BK5..
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#347726 - 07/24/12 12:23 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
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Audya: I would like to be able to record the vocals separately from the keyboard for balancing later. At the moment its just a one take hard disk recorder (MP3 or WAV).

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#347729 - 07/24/12 12:28 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Originally Posted By: Tonewheeldude
Audya: I would like to be able to record the vocals separately from the keyboard for balancing later. At the moment its just a one take hard disk recorder (MP3 or WAV).



Is that something that another arranger already can do?
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#347731 - 07/24/12 12:33 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
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The ability to use native Roland styles without having to convert them first.

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#347733 - 07/24/12 12:50 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: abacus]
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Originally Posted By: abacus
The ability to use native Roland styles without having to convert them first.

Bill


Can anything hardware other than Roland's do that?

I'm shooting for a thread about features that some OTHER arranger can do.

I guess EVERY arranger can play it's OWN style format! But can it import others in THEIRS?
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#347734 - 07/24/12 12:56 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
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Whoops! Misread the question, sorry.

Can’t think of anything else though

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#347738 - 07/24/12 01:25 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
Tonewheeldude Offline
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Originally Posted By: Diki
Originally Posted By: abacus
The ability to use native Roland styles without having to convert them first.

Bill


Can anything hardware other than Roland's do that?

I'm shooting for a thread about features that some OTHER arranger can do.

I guess EVERY arranger can play it's OWN style format! But can it import others in THEIRS?


The only one I know of was Hammond's XE1 which automatically converted Technics and Ketron Styles - but Hammond were too afraid to advertise the fact!

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#347740 - 07/24/12 01:41 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Casio MZ2000 also had a converter for Roland styles..Also Technic styles..Page E-140 in the MZ2000 manual.. smile


Edited by Fran Carango (07/24/12 02:05 PM)
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#347742 - 07/24/12 01:45 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
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its not strictly an arranger but i want the karma like function applied to standard arranger styles in a way that can make a style change naturally with subtle variation and orchetsral changes that sound more organic and less like some computer algorithms . it needs to react and respond to the way i play like my tchnics KN1000 that would play different licks depending on how hard i played the keyboard and the complexity of the chords i played
I would buy it in a heart beat.


Edited by spalding1968 (07/24/12 01:48 PM)

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#347746 - 07/24/12 02:51 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
Dnj Offline
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Actually there is too much in my PA500 arranger lots of features I never use............ it does the job so well for my needs...
less is more in this game,.

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#347748 - 07/24/12 02:55 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
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I wish Korg would determine and display the chords in a midi file, as Rolands do. I have used this to learn some songs when I was using Roland more. It's not 100% accurate, but generally very close. Not a big thing, but it's sort of neat.
Diki, supposedly the soon-to-be released major update for PA3X will allow the chord sequencer to transpose. We'll see.
I also wish my keyboard had two mic inputs, as Audya does.
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#347749 - 07/24/12 03:04 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
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sorry about my post above, I misread the question too. In which case I retract my comment as there is nothing on another arranger that I would like to see on the Audya.

hmm...Except maybe real drawbars like the old XE1 had and Wersi Wing has (but with KeyB sound engine). However its not that important.

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#347753 - 07/24/12 04:20 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
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Technics had a cool feature, where you could step record, let's say, 4 random chords and the KB would loop them.
You could change variations and fills with that.
Great way to jam and free up your left hand for other things.
That's the only feature I miss.
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#347758 - 07/24/12 06:25 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
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(1) Retrigger parameter on style tracks (Rolands lack this, all other brands have it)
(2) User-adjustable recognition delay, to prevent the premature sounding of unintended chords. (LiveStyler has this, hardware arrangers don't.) It makes a huge difference if you play with simplified fingering. Kudos to Korg, which have a pretty forgiving fixed "window" programmed in by the factory. However it should be adjustable from real time to about 60 microseconds, and all brands should have this.
(3) Simultaneous use of and interaction between Song mode and Style mode. Yamaha has elements of this, in a limited way. Korg has two sequencers and they don't talk. Boo!


Edited by TedS (07/24/12 06:28 PM)

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#347921 - 07/27/12 10:07 PM Re: What's the ONE thing your arranger doesn't have? [Re: Diki]
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One thing I would like to see is a section based music creation.. something like you find on Apple`s Garage Band. There is an equivalent pattern mode on the synths but would be great to have this on arrangers as well !
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