Just look at this video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Vkxztxg1c

This is exactly the technollogy arranger players have been wayting for, super realistic acoustic instruments. Cant wayt to see this implemented intoo a TOTL arranger.

Old news

Nothing new on this area from Roland,it's over.

Impuls

You guys are getting ahead of yourselves. Maybe the Roland representative just had twins, and he wants to show George baby pictures.

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Come on Impulse, are trying to suggest that if Roland put out an arranger with those capabilities you wouldn't be interested?? I would drool at it. AS a matter of fact, with the price the way they are if they could produce a TOTL arranger at a lower cost and those mind blowing features and benefits,,,, I mean wow! come on Roland get back into the game

Dont fool yourself Roland is watching the trends and sales of their competition.. you prob wont see a new TOTl arranger with the economy the way it is....BUT, I could see them offering a new under $1000.00 arranger with the BK7m or other OS inside to keep up with the rest...little by little the days of expensive $4000.00+ arrangers is coming to an end & yearly sales figures will drive the bus for all to stay afloat.

I gave a listen to the demo. They sound great especially the trumpet sound. I think it could make its way into the arranger as well. Don`t really know whats stopping all arranger keyboard manufacturers from getting super realistic sounds into their instruments for all their voices I know that the Tyros 4 has amazing realism in the SA and SA2 voices. Roland calls them supernatural tones while Korg has it in the form of DNC. Wonder why don`t they offer a setup where we have super realistic GM Set(128 sounds) with an OS control option to switch between button based articulations or automatic velocity based articulations. This would perhaps get the price down and most people would be happy with 128 quality instruments and say 20 decent velocity switched sampled drumkits.
Then ofcourse, very much in line with what Yamaha Music soft offers, voices and styles offered for additional purchase.
This would be what most players would need... decent quality instruments at a basic affordable price and then purchase additional ones if required. I`ll stop my utopian thoughts here.. As Donny pointed out, the global economy definitely influences what the manufacturers come out with. But from the hint which George got from them it surely sounds like a decent arranger from the Roland stable !!!

Super Natural Sounds have been on the top end Roland Ateliers for a couple of years now, and are happily received by the home market.

SA1/2 is just sample layer switching, which has been available and used in the pro market for years. (The early ones were called Legato voices)

GM = General Midi is a standard that specifies a certain feature set that is common to all Midi compatible instruments, therefore the standard would need to modified by the Midi standards committee to allow all the new articulation controls to be added. (The last update to the Midi standard was about 10 years ago so it’s about time they did something)

Articulation switching in the pro market (VSTs etc.) does not use buttons, but keys that are unused on the keyboard. (For example; A Sax only has a limited range of notes that can be played on them, therefore in the pro market only these ranges are produced leaving the other notes free for articulation switching)

Bill

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Hi Dnj,

you have to keep in mind that the financing comes from Germany the strongest in the Euro, and the manufacturing would prob be in Italy, one of the weaker Euro's. So money to invest at a lower cost = affordable R&D. Also I don't hear Yamaha and Korg complaining, and at $4K thats a pretty good incentive for Roland to get back into the market. Lets face it they have the sounds and the wherewithall, so all they would need to do would be put it into a box. The E80 with improved patches/styles, and the smaller mix of the Jupitor 80, makes this a real possibility, so don't write them off, I think they know they have to get back into the market place, otherwise potential buyers wont see them as a competative voice any more, and also you start to loose the ability to produce the TOTL Arranger.

I am waiting like you all, and I really want them back!!

Robbo I hope your right.....or maybe Roland is taking another direction more toward Synths and gadgets instead of Arrangers, although I just don't see how Roland could offer something better then Yamaha T4 & KORG Pa3x, & Audya, at this time the niche is getting smaller year after year for someone to fit in.
Maybe a micro G..? lol

time will tell hang in there !

Roland allways used to be the company to think out of the box. This time they only need to think in their own box.

-Combining the matrix view from Cakewalk with arranger capabillities and you have the ultimate arranger with both midi and audio styles.

-Using their current sound engines from Jupiter 80, Fantom and V-piano they will have a better sounding arranger then all others together.

-Adding all the good things we remember from the G70.


And as usuall Roland will deliver the best User interface with a huge touchscreen, and free asinable sliders, buttons and knobs.

Since all the things described above are allready developed in software (yes for the last 10 years every synthworkstation or arranger uses dedicated software as their soundsource), there is not much researchcosts required to build them intoo one instrument. And processor power has never been so cheep as of lately.


add 76 keys and this will blow all other arrangers away... both on possibilities as on sound quallity.