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#330388 - 08/14/11 02:14 AM Re: It's NOT working !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Uncle Dave]
tassiespirit Offline
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Registered: 01/25/08
Posts: 554
Loc: Devonport, Tasmania, Australia
At least the specs on the PAAS system for the 3X are not bad, and should give you the monitoring levels you need/want.

•Dedicated Amplification System for 76 and 61 key models.
•3 Channel Amplifier: 2x20 Watt (Mid/Hi) + 1x40 Watt (Subwoofer).
•5 Speakers: 2 Midrange (80mm), 2 Tweeters, Dual Coil Woofer (130mm).
•Cabinet: Aluminium case with Bass Reflex System
•Connectivity: through custom connector. No audio cables and no power supply needed.
•Dimensions: 992 x 173 x 137 mm / 39.06 x 6.81x 5.39 inch
•Weight: 5.7 kg / 12.57 lbs


Allan
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#330395 - 08/14/11 09:33 AM Re: It's NOT working !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15560
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Dave,

Just got back from four days of sailing, the weather sucked, and still does. Sailing home in torrential rain and thunder-showers is a bit intimidating.

The kids/adult-children are beautiful, and I know you are a proud papa. smile

The bad news is that you got old, and like most of us that have been in this business for more than a couple weeks, your hearing is probably shot to hell. It comes from all those "In your face" sounds at ear-bleed levels. Consequently, we, the males of the species tend to loose our high frequency sounds, while in contrast the females loose their low frequency hearing abilities. It would be a good idea to have it checked out by a reputable audiologist.

In reality, even if you doubled, or even tripled the internal speaker's amp power it probably would not make a discernible difference it what you hear at the player level. I do, however, know individuals that have changed out the speakers on the PSR-S900 and achieved incredible results. This, of course, is quite expensive if you cannot do the job without the aid of an electronics repair shop.

As you know, I rely heavily upon my singing--it's essentially my right hand voice during most of my performances. I stopped using the keyboard's internal speakers when I first purchased the Bose L1. I did this for two reasons. First, and foremost, that was back when I was still using a hand-held mic, and there was a problem with feedback from the keyboard's speakers that affected the entire sound system. When I dead-plugged the keyboard speakers the feedback problem vanished, my vocals sounded much better, both to me and my audiences, and for the first time I was hearing exactly what my audiences heard.

Finally, the keyboard's line-in, at least on the PSR-3000 and Tyros-2 is more than adequate for the output of the TC Helicon Harmony-M, which I assume is similar to your system. The only complaints I've heard along this line was from folks that have failed to set the tiny switch on the back of the keyboard to Line-In. That said, the Auxiliary Input, which is a separate function, at least on the PSR-3000, is just plain awful and requires levels much higher than Line in order to function. Some players have actually placed a small pre-amp in-line with the output of devices that would be fired into the auxiliary input just to achieve the needed operating levels.

One day in the not too distant future, I'm hoping we can get together again, drink a few beers, and maybe compare systems and setups. You have always helped me in the past, so maybe I can return the favor this time around.

Good luck old friend,

Gary cool
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#330410 - 08/14/11 08:35 PM Re: It's NOT working !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Jerry T]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Originally Posted By: Jerry T
Dave,
Gorgeous family ... If you would ever need to borrow a PA800 let me know.

Thanx Jerry! I'll keep that in mind!
d
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#330411 - 08/14/11 08:44 PM Re: It's NOT working !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: travlin'easy]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Originally Posted By: travlin'easy

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The bad news is that your hearing is probably shot to hell.
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the Auxiliary Input, which is a separate function, is just plain awful and requires levels much higher than Line in order to function.


Gary,
Nope - my hearing is great. I was never that guy who sat in front of loud speakers - in fact the portable kb systems have been my monitor for most of my career, and they fire straight up and not "really" in my face ... just close by. I hear all those little annoying high freq ringtones that my students try to fool us "old guys" with. My trouble in monitoring is not with a loss of hearing ... it's the loud room noise that makes me have to turn down my main system to a level that is adequate for the house and acceptable for me. Sometimes, these are 2 different things! LOL
I require a certain comfort level and it doesn't matter what the main is doing, as long as I am in that "Zone". My summer job at the shore is such a hoppin' place, and it's so loud with chatter .... all I do is add to the din. I bought a small hot-spot type monitor to try tomorrow ... should be ok for the rest of the month, and then, it's a non issue.

I agree about the line in, but that still only gives you mono vocals, and forces you to go through the Yamaha preamp which falls short of my desires. It's an OK piece for a while, but I'm really getting itchy for something heavier duty .....
I wish the 3x had built in speakers. Sigh ....
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#330460 - 08/15/11 04:15 PM Re: It's NOT working !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Uncle Dave]
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 14376
Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
Dave ... your children are beautiful ... I know you are - and SHOULD BE - very proud ...

PS ... hope your mom had a great birthday ...


Edited by tony mads usa (08/15/11 04:16 PM)
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#330632 - 08/19/11 10:47 AM Re: It's NOT working !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Mom's day was great - we had a terrific day for pictures, and at 80 and 81, Mom and Dad are both hard to keep up with!
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#330874 - 08/25/11 02:41 PM Re: It's NOT working !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Uncle Dave]
MacAllcock Offline
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Registered: 03/02/02
Posts: 1221
Loc: Preston, Lancashire, England
My 3k speakers aren't up to the job, I'm a fan of in-ear headphones.
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#330923 - 08/26/11 10:37 AM Re: It's NOT working !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Uncle Dave]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
I worked in a show band that used in-ear monitors, but in a smaller, more intimate setting, I feel disconnected with the crowd when I have plugs in. I'm still trying new things each night to make my comfort level increase.
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