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#329467 - 07/25/11 05:49 PM My current EQ and compressor settings for T4
Scott Langholff Offline
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I decided to make a seperate post of this from another thread for those who may want to do a search in the future and easily find someplace at which to start.

I think the EQ and compressor settings are quite personal depending what sound the player likes, what kind of speaker system is being used, the type of music being played and the acoustics of each room.

I use JBL Eon G2's. At first I didn't like the sound as compared to my T2 at loud volume. I did discover the same EQ settings on the T2 and T4 with no compression are identical in sound using the same style and ots. I've come to the conclusion that the sound is just different the way the styles and ots are set. There is some getting used to. I asked for suggestions on several forums. I tried them all. Everything from go flat, to just raise the bass to start at flat and just lower volumes and I'll get less noise, no compression, etc. I appreciate all the responses very much, but what I have ended up with currently is my former EQ that I've used probably since the T1.

My EQ settings are, first set it to flat, then
EQ1 +5
EQ2 +4
EQ3 +2
EQ4 +6
EQ5 +10

I tested these setting with all the EQ preset types, flat, TRS-MS04, SP Stage, etc. These will make a big difference. I found that starting from the Flat type setting is by far the best for me.

The compressor has different controls than the T2, I am currently using the following settings:

I used the Basic type as my starting point, then Threshold Offset -13, Ratio Offset +3 and Gain Offset +3.

This is giving me a pretty good sound. I'm at least in the ballpark with what I'm looking for. I will probably continue to test out other compression but may end up leaving it as it is.

I wish Yamaha had more info and explanation for this.

As it is for the compressor, I used some tips that came from Steve Demming of Yamaha US as follows.

These come from the psrtutorial faq page:

F.89. How to select Tyros 3 compressor settings.
The T3 gives you a choice of compressor types, e.g. Basic, TRS, Live , etc. Each of these choices sets some parameters internally. The controls allow you to modify the Threshold, Ratio and Gain over a +- range from the undisclosed settings that are built in.



1. You must be sure to turn the CMP switch "on" using button G.

2. Set you Master Volume to a comfortable listening level, select any style you like, and then start it playing.

3. After that, you must then go in to the controls on the bottom of the screen.

4. Start with the "Threshold Offset" control and try -10 first. You should then begin to see the top meter called "Gain Reduction" beginning to show a little green bar appearing at the right of the meter screen. If you do not see the little green bar appearing, there is no compressor effect and you should then try Threshold Offset -20.

5. If the green meter bar is appearing on the left, then adjust Ratio Offset to +3 or +4 , whatever it takes for the softest sounds of the style to become more pronounced, louder and easier to hear. Once you achieve than, go to step 6.

6. Use the Gain Offset control and turn it up or down to assure the overall volume of the keyboard is maintained at that comfortable listening level you selected in step 2. The keyboard should not sound a lot louder. Of course, if you dial up the Gain Offset, this functions as another volume control, making the whole thing sound louder.

Steve Demming


If I come up with anything better I will post it and I'm hoping you and others will do the same.

Scott

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#329479 - 07/25/11 11:07 PM Re: My current EQ and compressor settings for T4 [Re: Scott Langholff]
Scott Langholff Offline
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I tend to like a hot sound and so far set the EQ in the smile position and have added some compressor. To me I like it, BUT, this much I learned from a local sound man. He has used a younger female to help him test EQ. Why? First men hear better lower, women hear the highs better. As we get older and especially if we've played in loud bands, haha, we don't hear as well in the upper frequencies. So, if it sounds good to us, ahem, slightly older guys, it may be too harsh for the ladies. So, he said if he has no female to help him set EQ, he set's it the way it sounds good to him and then he backs down the highs a bit.

As I tweak my T4 I am asking the ladies in the audience their opinions:)

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#329491 - 07/26/11 06:17 AM Re: My current EQ and compressor settings for T4 [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Originally Posted By: Scott Langholff
I am asking the ladies in the audience their opinions:)


I don't know about that approach - it seems that every time I go to a wedding or a club, the DJ/band caters to the ladies and plays for the 10-15 shoeless, drink toting single gals that seem to take over the dance floor. This puts them in front line of the speakers, and maybe THEIR hearing gets the worst beating!

Kidding, mostly ... but the point is that many performers seems to ignore the majority of the couples that remain seated while the minority of "babes" seem to whoop it up on the floor. Sure, it's fun to watch for a while, but it's selfish, and not at all fair to the room as a whole.

I try not to ever play more than 3 similar dance tunes in a row (sometimes 2 is enough) and then I change it up. Get the older couples out on the floor too ... throw a bone to the lovers in the crowd, give them something to celebrate. Sorry, but this has been an issue for me for ever. I look at a room of 150 people, and I see 15 on the dance floor .... it's poor management by the entertainer, even if the crazies on the floor are really living it up.
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#329504 - 07/26/11 08:17 AM Re: My current EQ and compressor settings for T4 [Re: Scott Langholff]
DonM Offline
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Those same 15 girls travel constantly all over the U.S., going from reception to reception, party to party. Their mantra is: "Play some Dance music". I've never played a reception when they weren't there.
Play "For the Good Times" and they will sit down and let actual guests dance.
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#329527 - 07/26/11 01:20 PM Re: My current EQ and compressor settings for T4 [Re: DonM]
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smile
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#329529 - 07/26/11 01:57 PM Re: My current EQ and compressor settings for T4 [Re: Uncle Dave]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By: Scott Langholff
I am asking the ladies in the audience their opinions:)


I don't know about that approach - it seems that every time I go to a wedding or a club, the DJ/band caters to the ladies and plays for the 10-15 shoeless, drink toting single gals that seem to take over the dance floor. This puts them in front line of the speakers, and maybe THEIR hearing gets the worst beating!

Kidding, mostly ... but the point is that many performers seems to ignore the majority of the couples that remain seated while the minority of "babes" seem to whoop it up on the floor. Sure, it's fun to watch for a while, but it's selfish, and not at all fair to the room as a whole.

I try not to ever play more than 3 similar dance tunes in a row (sometimes 2 is enough) and then I change it up. Get the older couples out on the floor too ... throw a bone to the lovers in the crowd, give them something to celebrate. Sorry, but this has been an issue for me for ever. I look at a room of 150 people, and I see 15 on the dance floor .... it's poor management by the entertainer, even if the crazies on the floor are really living it up.


Hi UD

Ah, that's not really what I had in mind or intended here.haha My ladies tend to be 50+ and sober. I generally do the ballroom dance club circuit. I don't play much for young drunk chics, but I guess they have their place in the ecological system too. rotfl bounce

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#329530 - 07/26/11 02:05 PM Re: My current EQ and compressor settings for T4 [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Don and Dave, the same gals seem to travel to my part of the world too. They get blasted, take off their shoes, shake lots of body parts, etc... There are lots of good reasons I no longer do weddings unless the bride and groom are over 55 years of age--that's just one of them.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#329532 - 07/26/11 03:27 PM Re: My current EQ and compressor settings for T4 [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Um...Sure wish I knew where they were going this weekend...I'd like to go & watch. :-)
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#329536 - 07/26/11 04:08 PM Re: My current EQ and compressor settings for T4 [Re: Scott Langholff]
travlin'easy Offline
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Lee,

Just look in the newspaper for wedding announcements, and if the bridge and groom are relatively young, under 25, they'll be there. wink

Gary cool
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#329546 - 07/26/11 10:26 PM Re: My current EQ and compressor settings for T4 [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Lee,

Just look in the newspaper for wedding announcements, and if the bridge and groom are relatively young, under 25, they'll be there. wink

Gary cool


Gary what does the bridge have to do with the groom?.. smile
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#329556 - 07/27/11 04:27 AM Re: My current EQ and compressor settings for T4 [Re: Scott Langholff]
travlin'easy Offline
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Sorry about the typo, Fran--should have said bride. The bridge part comes later when the groom realizes he made a drastic mistake. wink

Cheers,

Gary
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