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#326428 - 06/13/11 01:23 PM Transposing sequencer songs
Bert Aarts Offline
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Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 158
Loc: Breda, The Netherlands
In the past I have downloaded a lot of sequencer songs from various talented KN owners, like Bill, Larry, Bebop, Bud and many others. Thanks to all for letting us enjoy their music.
I like to play along using these sequences (gives me the feeling that I am a pretty good player, which I am not!) but unfortunate many of them are not in the same key as my sheet music. Is there a procedure to transpose a sequencer song to the key that I need to play along?
Bert

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#326431 - 06/13/11 02:01 PM Re: Transposing sequencer songs [Re: Bert Aarts]
HarryG Offline
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Registered: 04/18/09
Posts: 211
Loc: Germany
Hi Bert,

Check your mail

Greetings
Harry

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#326491 - 06/14/11 08:21 AM Re: Transposing sequencer songs [Re: Bert Aarts]
etwo4788 Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
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Loc: S.E. New Mexico USA
HARRY..... If you have an answerto BERT's question....how about posting it here for all to read?????

Elizabeth

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#326500 - 06/14/11 12:02 PM Re: Transposing sequencer songs [Re: Bert Aarts]
Bert Aarts Offline
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Posts: 158
Loc: Breda, The Netherlands
Harry sent me a word file by email. I tried to add this file to this post but it looks like a word file cannot be added? I got the message that only certain extensions can be added, .doc is not one of them. Am I doing something wrong?
Bert


Edited by Bert Aarts (06/14/11 12:07 PM)

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#326510 - 06/14/11 02:07 PM Re: Transposing sequencer songs [Re: Bert Aarts]
HarryG Offline
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Registered: 04/18/09
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Hi Elizabeth,

Transose is a feature that should really be known. Bert's why I responded by email.

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#326519 - 06/14/11 04:05 PM Re: Transposing sequencer songs [Re: Bert Aarts]
Audrey Turner Offline
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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 1098
Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Hello Bert,

I don't do use 'play along songs' but if I had your problem, I think I would try the following:-

1) Save your song/track to one of the Panel Memories.

2) Press and hold down the blue (SET) button in the centre of the PM wheel. This will take you
to Page 1 of the PANEL MEMORY MODE. At this stage press the 'Display Hold' (obviously,to
make sure the display screen doesn't change whilst you're working in that area).

3) Make sure the EXPAND is selected (showing a red box all round it). If it isn't, just press
the button to the left of the screen next to the word EXPAND.

4) Press PAGE button (bottom right of the screen next to the 'Display Hold' button. This will
take you to the EXPAND MODE FILTER on Page 2. Among other options, you will see TRANSPOSE
which should be 'ON'.

6) Press the Transpose button + or - to make your choice, then re-save the panel memory.

7) If you are going to use the same transposition for all 8 panel memories, then the easiest
way to make sure they all stay the same, is to switch the Transpose button to 'OFF' in the
Expand Mode Filter section.

Hope this helps!

Audrey

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#326541 - 06/14/11 11:20 PM Re: Transposing sequencer songs [Re: Bert Aarts]
Nigel Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bert Aarts
Harry sent me a word file by email. I tried to add this file to this post but it looks like a word file cannot be added? I got the message that only certain extensions can be added, .doc is not one of them. Am I doing something wrong?
Bert


No it's not you Bert, .doc isn't supported. But you could add it to a zip file and upload that. Or simply highlight the text, copy it ( CTRL-C ) and paste it ( CTRL-V ) into a forum post. That would be even better than attaching a file.

Though I am guessing it probably says what Audrey posted.

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#326544 - 06/15/11 12:14 AM Re: Transposing sequencer songs [Re: Bert Aarts]
Bert Aarts Offline
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Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 158
Loc: Breda, The Netherlands
Thanks Nigel.
This is what Harry sent me:

Hello,

It is difficult for me in a foreign language to explain but I try it once.
I hope that Rog can specify individual activities.

1. Press the PROGRAM MENUS button to select the display SEQUENCER.
2. Then select the display RANGE EDIT and then TRANSPOSE.
3. Now imagine you TRACK the desired track of the sequencer Midifiles given to you in the
Pitch change. You can also choose ALL to view all tracks in the pitch
alike to change.
4. For FIRST MEASURE set the first bar to the transposition from the start
be. If it affects the whole song, it is here the 1
5. LAST MEASURE When you make the last bar, which should be transposed. When
Transpose the entire song must therefore be the last time it is. The white
But usually not accurate, so here is make sure you stop half a relatively high number an example 200.
6. TRANSPOSE When you need to adjust now, but should be transposed. A
Octave up is +12 (12 semitones = one octave). An octave lower
accordingly -12. If you are C of E to transpose down, then you must
-4 choose here.
7. Now perform this function by clicking OK and confirm again with YES.

(Remark Bert: There was a picture of the display which could not be copied)


WARNING! If you are as described above when the option ALL TRACK (all tracks) elected
, then of course, now the drum track (drum track) has been transposed, and
then agrees with the instrument layout of the individual percussion instruments, no more. This
So you need to track back transpose.

1. In Midifiles is the drum track, usually the 10th track
2. Run the TRANSPOSE function in the Sequencer RANGE EDIT menu again
through, but now only the 10th track Imagine therefore the TRACK 10.
3. For FIRST and LAST MEASURE MEASURE leave the already existing entries
Just stand.
4. TRANSPOSE For now, however, set the opposite value. Ie, if you previously
-4 Had entered there, then you must now enter +4, so that the drum track 10


Edited by Bert Aarts (06/15/11 12:18 AM)

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#326545 - 06/15/11 12:19 AM Re: Transposing sequencer songs [Re: Bert Aarts]
Bert Aarts Offline
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Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 158
Loc: Breda, The Netherlands
Thanks Audrey, I will give it a try.
Bert

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#326582 - 06/15/11 02:50 PM Re: Transposing sequencer songs [Re: Bert Aarts]
Bert Aarts Offline
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Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 158
Loc: Breda, The Netherlands
Sorry,last part of Harries email was missing in my post. This is the complete word file:

Hello,

It is difficult for me in a foreign language to explain but I try it once.
I hope that Rog can specify individual activities.

1. Press the PROGRAM MENUS button to select the display SEQUENCER.
2. Then select the display RANGE EDIT and then TRANSPOSE.
3. Now imagine you TRACK the desired track of the sequencer Midifiles given to you in the
Pitch change. You can also choose ALL to view all tracks in the pitch
alike to change.
4. For FIRST MEASURE set the first bar to the transposition from the start
be. If it affects the whole song, it is here the 1
5. LAST MEASURE When you make the last bar, which should be transposed. When
Transpose the entire song must therefore be the last time it is. The white
But usually not accurate, so here is make sure you stop half a relatively high number an example 200.
6. TRANSPOSE When you need to adjust now, but should be transposed. A
Octave up is +12 (12 semitones = one octave). An octave lower
accordingly -12. If you are C of E to transpose down, then you must
-4 choose here.
7. Now perform this function by clicking OK and confirm again with YES.

(Remark Bert: There was a picture of the display which could not be copied)



WARNING! If you are as described above when the option ALL TRACK (all tracks) elected
, then of course, now the drum track (drum track) has been transposed, and
then agrees with the instrument layout of the individual percussion instruments, no more. This
So you need to track back transpose.

1. In Midifiles is the drum track, usually the 10th track
2. Run the TRANSPOSE function in the Sequencer RANGE EDIT menu again
through, but now only the 10th track Imagine therefore the TRACK 10.
3. For FIRST and LAST MEASURE MEASURE leave the already existing entries
Just stand.
4. TRANSPOSE For now, however, set the opposite value. Ie, if you previously
-4 Had entered there, then you must now enter +4, so that the drum track 10 back into the original state will be moved back.
5. Press OK to execute and confirm once again Yes.
Now you can Midifile back to the SD card or save to a floppy disk.


Edited by Bert Aarts (06/15/11 02:52 PM)

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