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#322362 - 04/20/11 08:03 AM Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger
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Since just about everyone else showed their hand......should be time for Yamaha to release some hints on the NEW PSR S series Arranger follow up to the S910 don't you think? I hope they break tradition and give us something a little different then just a trickled down T4 version this time around.

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#322367 - 04/20/11 08:12 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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If they would put some really good fresh "real" Latin styles they'd sell like hot tortillas!

I'm talking about cumbia, bachata, raggaeton, merengue, salsa, and regional Mexican styles.
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#322368 - 04/20/11 08:15 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman

I'm talking about cumbia, bachata, raggaeton, merengue, salsa, and regional Mexican styles.


That all depends on who creates them for Yamaha...then again what one person likes & needs the next one doesn't...we'll see soon enough......but for now I would imagine the Latin styles will be the same as what is on the T4 now just less of them.

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#322369 - 04/20/11 08:17 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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I have just a few clients waiting for the S910's replacement...the S910 is still selling very well.

I'm very glad I bought the Tyros4...no buyer's remorse whatsoever...this baby's going to keep me happy for quite some time.

I can't see any major changes in the new PSR-S series...probably some SA2 voices, more SA and mega voices, and, of course, some new styles, and maybe the new VH-2 Vocal Harmonizer.

Ian
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#322372 - 04/20/11 08:43 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: ianmcnll]
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I'd think with the new vocal harmonizer many curent S910 users would want to up-grade.
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#322373 - 04/20/11 08:47 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: montunoman

I'm talking about cumbia, bachata, raggaeton, merengue, salsa, and regional Mexican styles.


That all depends on who creates them for Yamaha...then again what one person likes & needs the next one doesn't...


But why does Yamaha ignore all of South America, Central America, Mexico, the Spansih speaking Carribbean, and a huge portion of the US? It doesn't make sense. It's a huge market.
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#322376 - 04/20/11 09:02 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Yamaha has a big market for arrangers in Newfoundland...but, they don't create very many jigs, reels, fast 3/4, 6/8 etc for the kind of music that is predominant there.

They create a few, but most who want more of those styles, generally modify (there's that darn old Style Creator again) the existing styles to suit their needs.

That's what most of us do when we can't quite get enough of what we want...no use waiting.

It could be a long time.

If you want more Latin styles, and if there is as big a demand for them as you indicate, there must be someone making them...maybe they'll share, or perhaps sell what they've made.

Ian



Edited by ianmcnll (04/20/11 09:07 AM)
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#322377 - 04/20/11 09:03 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman
I'd think with the new vocal harmonizer many curent S910 users would want to up-grade.


Less than 50% of my clients buy the higher end arranger for the vocal harmonizer...it's mostly for the sounds and features.

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#322379 - 04/20/11 09:18 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman
I'd think with the new vocal harmonizer many curent S910 users would want to up-grade.


I have yet to see a VH2 demo that is worthy of "professional live gig use" using the new so called VH2

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#322381 - 04/20/11 09:53 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: ianmcnll]
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
Yamaha has a big market for arrangers in Newfoundland...but, they don't create very many jigs, reels, fast 3/4, 6/8 etc for the kind of music that is predominant there.

Ian



But how many artist's playing jigs, reels, fast 3/4, 6/8 etc are turning out hit songs? Contempory Latin is hardly a niche market.

Your point on learning the style creator is well taken.
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#322382 - 04/20/11 09:56 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: montunoman
I'd think with the new vocal harmonizer many curent S910 users would want to up-grade.


I have yet to see a VH2 demo that is worthy of "professional live gig use" using the new so called VH2


Since you already use a very neat external vocal harmonizer (that you say you really like a lot), and most of your act is singing, you'd probably be best sticking with the S910.

The Tyros4's VH-2 is a far better harmonizer, totally "professional" in every way, but the only way you will really know, is to try the one on the Yamaha Tyros4yourself....you must have access to, or have at least tried, a Tyros4 have you, Donny?

It's been out for quite awhile.

Ian
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#322383 - 04/20/11 10:04 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman
Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
Yamaha has a big market for arrangers in Newfoundland...but, they don't create very many jigs, reels, fast 3/4, 6/8 etc for the kind of music that is predominant there.

Ian



But how many artist's playing jigs, reels, fast 3/4, 6/8 etc are turning out hit songs? Contemporary Latin is hardly a niche market.

Your point on learning the style creator is well taken.



It's amazing how many use jigs reels fast 3/4, 6/8 etc...think River-dance, Acadian, New Orleans, Scottish, Irish...if Contemporary Latin isn't a niche market, I am very surprised no one has capitalized on making styles for it.

There has to be someone making them.

Ian

PS...the Style Creator is my "best friend".
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#322399 - 04/20/11 01:01 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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I can't wait to see which of you guys will get
The scoop on the new s series specs

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#322400 - 04/20/11 01:10 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Donny usually gets the news first.


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#322409 - 04/20/11 02:30 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: ianmcnll]
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
Donny usually gets the news first.
Ian

Ian honestly .....this is the first time I'm not really too excited about what's coming out on the market...including the next S Series unit...I am perfectly content with the S910 on stage ...it does the job "FOR ME" very well......and to upgrade for just a few new sounds and a so so VH2 isn't worth it...
I cant believe I'm saying this but I am probably going to wait for the next wave of releases from the manufacturers even if its another year or two away to check out new stuff at this juncture... nothing out there now can sound any better then what I have IMO. I wish everyone a happy easter and passover holiday and good luck with your new gear what ever it is.

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#322414 - 04/20/11 03:05 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj


Ian honestly .....this is the first time I'm not really too excited about what's coming out on the market...including the next S Series unit...I am perfectly content with the S910 on stage ...it does the job "FOR ME" very well......and to upgrade for just a few new sounds and a so so VH2 isn't worth it...
I cant believe I'm saying this but I am probably going to wait for the next wave of releases from the manufacturers even if its another year or two away to check out new stuff at this juncture... nothing out there now can sound any better then what I have IMO. I wish everyone a happy easter and passover holiday and good luck with your new gear what ever it is.


It is good you have taken your time...in my case, I had the money to buy, and rather than wait till the Tyros4 demo instrument was going back before buying it, I spent the money while I had it...I would've chipped away at it over time (wasting it on food, furnace oil and utilities), and might not have had enough to get the Tyros4, which after playing, I felt I had to have.

The S910 was my second choice, but, I am very glad I went for the Tyros4.

Who knows, you may really like the next S-series...in any case, you certainly aren't forced to buy.

Let me know if you hear of anything new.

Ian
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#322417 - 04/20/11 03:33 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: ianmcnll]
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
Originally Posted By: Dnj


Ian honestly .....this is the first time I'm not really too excited about what's coming out on the market...including the next S Series unit...I am perfectly content with the S910 on stage ...it does the job "FOR ME" very well......and to upgrade for just a few new sounds and a so so VH2 isn't worth it...
I cant believe I'm saying this but I am probably going to wait for the next wave of releases from the manufacturers even if its another year or two away to check out new stuff at this juncture... nothing out there now can sound any better then what I have IMO. I wish everyone a happy easter and passover holiday and good luck with your new gear what ever it is.


It is good you have taken your time...in my case, I had the money to buy, and rather than wait till the Tyros4 demo instrument was going back before buying it, I spent the money while I had it...I would've chipped away at it over time (wasting it on food, furnace oil and utilities), and might not have had enough to get the Tyros4, which after playing, I felt I had to have.
The S910 was my second choice, but, I am very glad I went for the Tyros4.
Who knows, you may really like the next S-series...in any case, you certainly aren't forced to buy.
Let me know if you hear of anything new.Ian


Money wasn't factored into my reasoning..... I'm just not motivated by what I'm hearing or seeing at this point with what's out there now At All...meanwhile enjoy your T4 it's a super Arranger! I'll be in touch wink

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#322428 - 04/20/11 07:53 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Given what we've seen from Yamaha recently.., I wouldn't be surprised if the new S-Series are made with black casings. Yammie seems to be moving back to that.
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#322429 - 04/20/11 08:43 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: squeak_D]
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Originally Posted By: squeak_D
Given what we've seen from Yamaha recently.., I wouldn't be surprised if the new S-Series are made with black casings. Yammie seems to be moving back to that.


"I'm not saying you're wrong.., but I'm damn sure ain't saying you're right either"........ bounce


Edited by Dnj (04/20/11 08:43 PM)

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#322430 - 04/20/11 08:48 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: squeak_D
Given what we've seen from Yamaha recently.., I wouldn't be surprised if the new S-Series are made with black casings. Yammie seems to be moving back to that.


"I'm not saying you're wrong.., but I'm damn sure ain't saying you're right either"........ bounce


I Hope he's right
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#322437 - 04/20/11 10:34 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: lahawk]
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Originally Posted By: lahawk
Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: squeak_D
Given what we've seen from Yamaha recently.., I wouldn't be surprised if the new S-Series are made with black casings. Yammie seems to be moving back to that.


"I'm not saying you're wrong.., but I'm damn sure ain't saying you're right either"........ bounce


I Hope he's right


And, I hope you're right in hoping he's right.


Ian
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#322469 - 04/21/11 08:43 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: ianmcnll]
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I guarentee you yamaha will retain the silver color
On the next s series. They won't mess with that.
I also believe this will be a substantial upgrade
Because the s910 was a semi upgrade. Expect a
Good increase in those sweet cool live and super
Articulation sounds. I doubt super articulation
2 sounds will make it. Expect more human sounds like
The tyros 4. Appearence will be identicle to s910
I think. Vocal harmony will be a key feature along
With a new feature that even the tyros 4 does not have.
There will not be any aftertouch. Expect live drum kits.
I believe the s910 only has 1 live drum kit. The ethnic
Drum kits will continue in this new model with new world
Sounds. Hmmm that's about it I think... smile

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#322471 - 04/21/11 08:54 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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That's sounds pretty good, Rolandfan...all we have to do is wait.

I suspect the color will remain the same...also no aftertouch will continue...I wonder what the "new feature" (that isn't on the Tyros4) will be? Each successive new TOTL PSR always had something new, that usually ended up on the next Tyros.

Any guess what it could be?

Ian
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#322475 - 04/21/11 09:18 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: ianmcnll]
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
Each successive new TOTL PSR always had something new, that usually ended up on the next Tyros.
Any guess what it could be?
Ian


76 keys/... whistle

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#322476 - 04/21/11 09:20 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say, "Chord Sequencer".

Ian
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#322479 - 04/21/11 09:24 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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or maybe they'll make a case that fits the unit ;0

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#322483 - 04/21/11 09:31 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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I have a great case that I used for the Yamaha PSR-S910...custom made by a guy, Terry, in Halifax, Nova Scotia that has his own business called, "Sewman".

http://www.nslocal.ca/results.php?hide_id=1882&hide_stylesheet=3

Excellent work and very reasonable prices.

I'll keep it for the next S-series.

Ian
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#322521 - 04/22/11 01:15 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Expect 350 to 400 styles on it. There will probably be
200 to 300 extra sounds over the s910. Gosh I'm excited

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#322527 - 04/22/11 06:53 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: rolandfan]
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Originally Posted By: rolandfan
Expect 350 to 400 styles on it. There will probably be
200 to 300 extra sounds over the s910. Gosh I'm excited


I'm excited too, but we don't know for sure if it's coming out. Maybe we'll have to wait another year.

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#322542 - 04/22/11 12:57 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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I won't be excited until I see it, hear it, play it...if not I'll pass...what's the rush?.....I have cleared out & sold ALL my gear except what I use to gig with ....I was NEVER a pack rat. Too much happening in the future with gear to clutter up my room with old outdated gear. I look ahead to the future for now.

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#322568 - 04/22/11 04:37 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Man ... all this speculation on the NEXT big thing when the latest stuff hasn't even hit all the stores yet. How can you possibly get so wrapped up in what MIGHT come out late summer?
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#322601 - 04/23/11 05:09 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Shows u why yamaha makes more money than
Roland and korg put together

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#322617 - 04/23/11 11:24 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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I still see s900's selling for top dollar as well as the s910. I'm not really interested in a top up right now. I think I'd rather try the Roland BK7m and a 76 keyboard of sorts, but they are hard to find. I'm considering a PX330.
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#322718 - 04/24/11 11:40 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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The new yamaha psr s935 will be faster
Than a speeding locomotive carrying korg
Arrangers...able to.Jump tall roland head
office buildings with a single leap..
Able to see through other keyboards
Shortcomings..and able to shoot laser beams
at troublesome audience hooligans out
Of its rear usb port

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#322728 - 04/25/11 04:45 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: rolandfan]
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I knew it would have a new feature. Well laser beams it is.

PSR-S935 ... Rolandfan. I wonder if you cavort with people who do drugs or with people who work for Yamaha.

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#322729 - 04/25/11 04:48 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Beakybird]
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Originally Posted By: Beakybird
I wonder if you cavort with people who do drugs or with people who work for Yamaha.


Aren't they one and the same???

smile smile

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#322730 - 04/25/11 04:56 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: cgiles]
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Maybe the earthquake in Japan could slow down new production for Yamaha? Look what's happening with Toyota.
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#322735 - 04/25/11 05:42 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Just an over active imagination I'm afraid

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#322740 - 04/25/11 07:43 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By: cgiles
Originally Posted By: Beakybird
I wonder if you cavort with people who do drugs or with people who work for Yamaha.


Aren't they one and the same???

smile smile

chas


At Yamaha, our drug of choice is caffeine.

What's yours? (And please don't say Viagra, again).

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#322765 - 04/25/11 09:33 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Lol

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#323096 - 04/28/11 09:31 AM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Any week now... smile

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#323193 - 04/29/11 02:34 PM Re: Are You ready for the NEW Yamaha S series Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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It should be the next BIG thing talked about soon after Summer NAMM.

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