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#321654 - 04/12/11 06:34 PM
Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
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#321672 - 04/13/11 02:11 AM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: Diki]
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No-one on SZ even HAS a PA3x yet... what were you expecting?  Just what I said Diki, hear it, maybe it can't, not finished yet, sounds the part hey! If you bought one "Nah" what would you want to do before you bought it, listen to it yes. Bloody KB business is on it's uppers, they are playing at it, they mess us about and we love it, think I'll buy a tried and test KB G70. Want to sell yours Nah!
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#321677 - 04/13/11 02:54 AM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: Burkels]
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No-one on SZ even HAS a PA3x yet... what were you expecting? Just what I said Diki, hear it, maybe it can't, not finished yet, sounds the part hey! If you bought one "Nah" what would you want to do before you bought it, listen to it yes. Well if that's what you're looking for, there is a good bit of demos available on KorgPA.com: Here I believe what the majority are looking for are demos that are played "live"...possibly videos. Ian
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#321704 - 04/13/11 09:33 AM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: Bachus]
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That is the last time I post a Korg PA3x video on this forum. I am tired of all this negativity from the Yamaha fanboys concerning the PA3X and about hearing how great the Tyros 4 is.
Anyone that needs 76 keys will choose the PA3X over a T4 any day... ...In the video it says that its possible to transpose MP3's change their tempo and gather harmonic information from the MP3 to tell what chord is being played... That means that its technically possible to add audio styles with that kind of processing power.. You're right, Bachus...anyone that "needs" 76 keys will choose the PA3Xpro...what other choices do they have, other than the Audya, and low-end Casio? It may be possible to do a lot of things with the PA3Xpro, but one thing that seems to be a bit difficult, is the posting on-line demos that are done "live" and that showcase these great new features. This matters little to those of us who already have made their choice, but it sure must make it very difficult for someone trying to decide whether the PA3Xpro has a big enough edge over the PA2XPro to warrant trading up, or buying one outright. If they have enough smarts to make what is allegedly a much better instrument, why haven't they invested in someone that can show the instrument properly? Proper promotion means a lot regarding a product's success, yet Korg doesn't appear to be too concerned about the lack of it regarding the new PA3Xpro. I don't remember, but was the launch of the PA2XPro done in a similar fashion? Ian
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#321723 - 04/13/11 11:32 AM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: FransN]
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Well, if you are looking for a Telmo-like demo, best of luck! To be honest, as fine as Telmo's demos are, they AREN'T representative of what a T4 can do OOTB, usually. Telmo makes extensive use of custom samples, and sampled multipads, something, TBH, few do around here.
Telmo's dedication to getting the most out of his T4 isn't typical, and, to be fair, if a Korg or Ketron or Roland were demoed in this fashion, the Yamaha evangelists would be all over it, saying 'this isn't what comes with the arranger', blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada...
As far as we know, no-one even HAS a PA3x yet, certainly no-one here. T4 has got a year's worth of head start on the Korg. Don't you guys ever take even THAT into consideration? Tell you what.... Why not give it a rest for a while, and let's revisit this after some PA3's actually get into USER'S hands for a few months.
Try Goggling trade show videos of the T4 at its launch... plenty of VERY unimpressive stuff. The good stuff came later (at least user stuff). Give every OTHER arranger the same slack you cut Yamaha. I don't recall anyone bitching about how few good user demos there were before anyone even HAD one, here.
Do you?
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#321729 - 04/13/11 12:05 PM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: Diki]
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Telmo's dedication to getting the most out of his T4 isn't typical, and, to be fair, if a Korg or Ketron or Roland were demoed in this fashion, the Yamaha evangelists would be all over it, saying 'this isn't what comes with the arranger', blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada...
Saying something like that Diki, is hardly being " fair", as you are assuming people would act in a certain way, or perhaps the way you might act (point your finger...three point back  )...so, until Korg or Roland actually do a demo in the fashion you described, you are making an unfounded, and unfair statement about Yamaha users. But, that's seems to be par for the course for you lately. Ian
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#321758 - 04/13/11 02:24 PM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: Diki]
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Well, if you are looking for a Telmo-like demo, best of luck! To be honest, as fine as Telmo's demos are, they AREN'T representative of what a T4 can do OOTB, usually. Telmo makes extensive use of custom samples, and sampled multipads, something, TBH, few do around here.
Telmo's dedication to getting the most out of his T4 isn't typical, and, to be fair, if a Korg or Ketron or Roland were demoed in this fashion, the Yamaha evangelists would be all over it, saying 'this isn't what comes with the arranger', blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada...
As far as we know, no-one even HAS a PA3x yet, certainly no-one here. T4 has got a year's worth of head start on the Korg. Don't you guys ever take even THAT into consideration? Tell you what.... Why not give it a rest for a while, and let's revisit this after some PA3's actually get into USER'S hands for a few months.
Try Goggling trade show videos of the T4 at its launch... plenty of VERY unimpressive stuff. The good stuff came later (at least user stuff). Give every OTHER arranger the same slack you cut Yamaha. I don't recall anyone bitching about how few good user demos there were before anyone even HAD one, here.
Do you? +1
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#321771 - 04/13/11 02:59 PM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: FransN]
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Well, Frans, I sure hope that your company, Korg, comes across with some decent "live" denmos. So far, it's looking pretty grim. You seem to be nearly the only one satisfied with the very limited amount of demos. All we are seeing are people posting excuses for Korg. Korg does not need excuses. They need decent demos, and they need them very soon. This type of publicity can't be doing them any good. First, they don't post hardly anything...then they send a production keyboard to an unbiased reviewer, who gives it 6/10....then, they still do not showcase the instrument. Something's wrong...really wrong. Ian BTW...did I tell you how much I'm lovin' the Tyros4? I did? Well, I've told you again. 
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#321775 - 04/13/11 03:14 PM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: FransN]
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It sure seems to me that the Internet has more quality Yamaha arranger videos than Korg arranger videos.
Again, this does not necessarily make Yamaha better than Korg, but it certainly can be a factor in a purchase decision. Albeit it should not be THE reason to purchase a Yamaha.
I've searched and I found a few Korg arranger videos that were pretty good, but if someone can post a "knock your socks off" video of a PA2x, or a PA800, that would be great. There HAS to be some really good ones, after all these boards have been around for a couple years now...before the T-4
Anyway Fran, thanks for the video, it was good, but it was just a little too much German chat, and too little playing.
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#321787 - 04/13/11 03:57 PM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: ianmcnll]
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Well, Frans, I sure hope that your company, Korg, comes across with some decent "live" denmos. So far, it's looking pretty grim. You seem to be nearly the only one satisfied with the very limited amount of demos. All we are seeing are people posting excuses for Korg. Korg does not need excuses. They need decent demos, and they need them very soon. This type of publicity can't be doing them any good. First, they don't post hardly anything...then they send a production keyboard to an unbiased reviewer, who gives it 6/10....then, they still do not showcase the instrument. Something's wrong...really wrong. Ian BTW...did I tell you how much I'm lovin' the Tyros4? I did? Well, I've told you again. Ian The Annoying One. Saying the same thing over and over.
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#321794 - 04/13/11 04:20 PM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: FransN]
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Hmm haven't you listen the great demos on korgpa.com. Not really a tiny bit. Yes, I have listened, and the sounds are very good indeed. However, I'd like to hear the instrument played "live", by a performer I can see pressing the keys, changing the chords, and working the performance controls. The PA3Xpro is designed as a "player's" instrument...wouldn't you like to see it being played as you would play it? I sincerely hope they do come up with more demos Frans...as I said, I'm not putting down the PA3xPro...I'm questioning Korg's way of promoting it. You can't see the value of a good "live" demo, done by a player who can make the instrument do what it is meant to do? Ian
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#321801 - 04/13/11 05:10 PM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: FransN]
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Sure it would be nice to see some more videos but it would be nicer if I could buy one tomorrow and play one myself.
Yep, that would be the best way, but, unfortunately, not always possible for some folk. You bought your PA-500 based only on on-line demos? Were they more detailed than what was put up for the PA3Xpro? Ian Just want to add, Frans, that the PA3Xpro style demos on KorgPA.com are great...really nicely done.
Edited by ianmcnll (04/13/11 05:36 PM)
Edit Reason: add a comment
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#321806 - 04/13/11 05:41 PM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: FransN]
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Yes, I listened to everything again, on KorgPA.com, and it's well done pretty well all around. Still, a good video demo would be the icing on the cake.
I'm sure you'll agree that an instrument of the PA3Xpro's cost should be played before buying, but if you have no other choice, I suppose you could risk it.
I am very glad (and very lucky) that I didn't have to buy my arranger that way.
I really hope it works out for you.
Ian
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#321831 - 04/13/11 09:40 PM
Re: Video of Korg PA3X Musikant in good audio
[Re: FransN]
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Sorry Diki...I ain't in your league at all...and according to all the PM's I got since your last ignorant outburst of insults, I'm not alone in thinking that way.
Now, why don't you just go and play in the traffic?
I don't like your manners, and I don't like you.
Your use of smileys doesn't mask your intent.
Baiting me won't work anymore. You're not worth the bother. Get my drift?
Give it up, give everyone else here a break, and while you're at it, stick those two remaining fingers up your nose.
Ian
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