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#320709 - 04/02/11 09:10 AM Re: Roland BK7M Modules Just Began Shipping [Re: George Kaye]
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That's FAR too small a screen for you to even WANT lyrics display on it...

You'd end up squinting the entire show! I like the video outs. Pick whatever you are comfortable with rather than 'one size fits all' (or doesn't fit all!)
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#320710 - 04/02/11 09:15 AM Re: Roland BK7M Modules Just Began Shipping [Re: George Kaye]
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or manufacturers could use "wasted KB real estate" and make bigger diplays like on the MS wink

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#320711 - 04/02/11 10:51 AM Re: Roland BK7M Modules Just Began Shipping [Re: George Kaye]
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Has anyone seen Roland's new vocal harmonizer?
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=1062
Looks very interesting.
DonM
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#320713 - 04/02/11 12:05 PM Re: Roland BK7M Modules Just Began Shipping [Re: George Kaye]
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Listen to the demos--AWFUL!
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#320714 - 04/02/11 12:12 PM Re: Roland BK7M Modules Just Began Shipping [Re: George Kaye]
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The people I talked to that tried the Roland VP-7 said it was very artificial sounding...quality is not even close to Yamaha's old arranger harmonizer.

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#320715 - 04/02/11 12:24 PM Re: Roland BK7M Modules Just Began Shipping [Re: George Kaye]
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It's not real inexpensive either. Too bad.
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#320716 - 04/02/11 12:30 PM Re: Roland BK7M Modules Just Began Shipping [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj

Although I very rarely use lyrics on stage when I perform ....that is a nice display unit for whomever would need it.....just another thing to hook up.


I am confused again here Donny, you have stated many times in the past that using lyrics is a "crutch", and that you never use them, and yet whenever any new product is announced, amongst your first questions is does it have a lyrics display???

And then you state it's a deal-breaker for you to have no lyrics display when you "RARELY" use lyrics?

Why not just have a small card for the "rare" times you need the words?

Just curious....

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#320721 - 04/02/11 02:15 PM Re: Roland BK7M Modules Just Began Shipping [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
Has anyone seen Roland's new vocal harmonizer?
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=1062
Looks very interesting.
DonM


The reviews were so bad I decided to go listen to it in person. It totally lived up to it's bad reviews - a real POS. What troubles me is that someone might mistakenly think that this is a module version of the VP-770; nothing could be further from the truth. The VP-770 is not only a different animal, costing over three times as much, but is a true 'best kept secret' used mostly by touring pro's. I got mine as a replacement for my VP-550 (which I also loved) and the improvement is monumental. Next to my C1, it is far and away my favorite instrument. It actually has (a few) usable solo voices (so-so piano, el. pianos, very good muted trumpet, great solo trumpet), plus the best brasses, strings, and choirs in the business. The bad news, it's somewhat overpriced at @ $2k. In any case, stay away from the VP-7; specs sound good, instrument sounds bad. My opinion only, of course.

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#320722 - 04/02/11 02:47 PM Re: Roland BK7M Modules Just Began Shipping [Re: George Kaye]
DonM Offline
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Thanks Chas!
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#320728 - 04/02/11 09:56 PM Re: Roland BK7M Modules Just Began Shipping [Re: George Kaye]
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Registered: 10/23/06
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I had a good listen to the BK7M today at my dealer. I was very disappointed with the styles. They seem to get more fluffy with each generation of arrangers. Understandable though as the manufacturer can't put together a new unit and leave the old (basic) styles in it.

But basic styles are what works best, unless you're not a great player. Then you want all that "fluff" in there to fill out what you're unable to play.

I thought those styles sounded like Lawrence Welk music. Or, an entry level arranger keyboard.

To be fair, I didn't hear it under ideal conditions. But when I played a keyboard over the arranger, I didn't feel any real "punch" behind me. Only a lot of "fluff!"

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