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#310525 - 05/05/10 03:12 PM Re: Preview of LSPC Gen
miden Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Irishacts:
Hi Dennis.

Are your numbers correct there ? I haven't looked at any other files than the default GM bank and the numbers in there are not formatted like that. The volume is displayed as 0 0.9 and not 0.09
There is a space between the first number and the second two, plus look at the decimal point.

So either the information Domencio posted on structure of the file is wrong and the first digit is for something else entirely, or this is one crazy way to specify volume.

Regards
James.


Oh and sorry m8, yes it was a typo(well I just abbreviated it)...they ARE 0 0.9 and
0 0.5

Dennis

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#310526 - 05/05/10 03:21 PM Re: Preview of LSPC Gen
AFG Music Offline
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James,
on qsampler instruments editor you can change volume only with percentage. when you save LSCP file you get 0 0.9
so,0 is for giga patch bank this if you have some giga instruments and you save it for example with extremsampler editor in one giga bank, here you can select then the nummber. for example you 5 instruments saved in one giga bank here can select from 0 to 4.

0.9 is for 90% volume

maybe, i am wrong Domenico can better answer this.


[This message has been edited by AFG Music (edited 05-05-2010).]

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#310527 - 05/05/10 03:48 PM Re: Preview of LSPC Gen
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Quote:
Originally posted by AFG Music:
James,
on qsampler instruments editor you can change volume only with percentage. when you save LSCP file you get 0 0.9
so, 0.9 is for 90% volume

[This message has been edited by AFG Music (edited 05-05-2010).]


If thats the case, then why is it when you select a giga instrument, the volume slider is at maximum?

I think 0 0.9 IS the max looking at it as a 0-9 numerical scale, not a 1-10 numerical scale...

Dennis

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#310528 - 05/05/10 03:51 PM Re: Preview of LSPC Gen
AFG Music Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by miden:
If thats the case, then why is it when you select a giga instrument, the volume slider is at maximum?

I think 0 0.9 IS the max looking at it as a 0-9 numerical scale, not a 1-10 numerical scale...

Dennis




this is the volume from lionstracs mixerboard.

they most do this to have good output sound.


to see that i am right about this, just open qsampler chage your master volume with qsampler volume slider read on the bottom of screen the messages.

for example
9% volume = 0.09
90% volume= 0.9
100% volume= 1.

this is the way linuxsampler volume works



[This message has been edited by AFG Music (edited 05-05-2010).]

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#310529 - 05/05/10 04:25 PM Re: Preview of LSPC Gen
Irishacts Offline
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Hi guys.
So then the first number has nothing to do with volume at all ?

That makes so much more sense. If it's to call up Giga sounds in a Giga Library file, then my program doesn't even address this and I will have to add this function. What are the ranges that need to be defined ? Is it 0 -127 ?

As for the second and third numbers, so are the ranges that need to be defined 0.0 - 1.0 or are we saying it's 0.0 to 0.9 ?

I think it's an ugly way to present volume to the end users so I'm going to leave my program display volume as 0 127 but I'll write a formula that outputs the information into the LSCP in the format 0.0 to 0.9 or whatever the range is supposed to be.

0-127 for volume just makes more sense as every keyboard displays sound like this.

Regards
James

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#310530 - 05/05/10 04:30 PM Re: Preview of LSPC Gen
miden Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by AFG Music:
this is the volume from lionstracs mixerboard.

they most do this to have good output sound.


to see that i am right about this, just open qsampler chage your master volume with qsampler volume slider read on the bottom of screen the messages.

for example
9% volume = 0.09
90% volume= 0.9
100% volume= 1.

this is the way linuxsampler volume works

[This message has been edited by AFG Music (edited 05-05-2010).]


Thanks AFG, yeah I can see the sense in that

Dennis

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#310531 - 05/05/10 04:31 PM Re: Preview of LSPC Gen
miden Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Irishacts:
0-127 for volume just makes more sense as every keyboard displays sound like this.

Regards
James


One of the reasons GM was conceived...uniformity. Not something that well known in the Linux world

Dennis

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#310532 - 05/05/10 04:35 PM Re: Preview of LSPC Gen
AFG Music Offline
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Registered: 03/12/09
Posts: 513
Quote:
Originally posted by Irishacts:
Hi guys.
So then the first number has nothing to do with volume at all ?

That makes so much more sense. If it's to call up Giga sounds in a Giga Library file, then my program doesn't even address this and I will have to add this function. What are the ranges that need to be defined ? Is it 0 -127 ?

As for the second and third numbers, so are the ranges that need to be defined 0.0 - 1.0 or are we saying it's 0.0 to 0.9 ?

I think it's an ugly way to present volume to the end users so I'm going to leave my program display volume as 0 127 but I'll write a formula that outputs the information into the LSCP in the format 0.0 to 0.9 or whatever the range is supposed to be.

0-127 for volume just makes more sense as every keyboard displays sound like this.

Regards
James


0% = 0.
1% = 0.01
2% = 0.02
........
........
........
99% = 0.99
100% = 1.

maybe this help

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#310533 - 05/05/10 04:51 PM Re: Preview of LSPC Gen
Irishacts Offline
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Thanks guys.
I'm going to implement those changes then. I'll add a GIGA Library selector for the first value, and for the second and third I'm going to use the following formula to convert my 0 127 standard midi volume values to LSCP decimal values.

1.0 / 127 X Volume Set (0-127) = LSCP Decimal Volume.
This way the end user will get to see normal values but the LSCP gets what it wants too.

Regards
James

[This message has been edited by Irishacts (edited 05-05-2010).]

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#310534 - 05/05/10 05:14 PM Re: Preview of LSPC Gen
miden Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 3351
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Quote:
Originally posted by Irishacts:
Thanks guys.
I'm going to implement those changes then. I'll add a GIGA Library selector for the first value, and for the second and third I'm going to use the following formula to convert my 0 127 standard midi volume values to LSCP decimal values.

1.0 / 127 X Volume Set (0-127) = LSCP Decimal Volume.
This way the end user will get to see normal values but the LSCP gets what it wants too.

Regards
James

[This message has been edited by Irishacts (edited 05-05-2010).]


Thanks James, for us "normal MIDI" guys that would be helpful, although as AFG explained it, it does not take much getting used to.

Actually, if we are to become more adept at running Giga samples and Linux Sampler, it may be better TO get used to the terminology.

It is all a learning curve, this MS....One really needs to dispense with ALL the old accumulated knowledge and approach with a totally open mind to new methods.

They may seem strange at first, but I am sure there are good reasons.

AFG has kindly shown us, well me at least, and after he explained it, it makes perfect sense

Dennis

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