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#308617 - 09/16/02 12:16 PM Re: KORG PA-80 vs Vega
asafar Offline
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Registered: 08/13/01
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Loc: New York
That is funny Turkmusic
But maybe the Vega we have here is the same as the (Fiat Pa-80) compared to your Lebanese (Mercedes Vega).
I said it before that all the Arabic styles and most of the western styles on the Vega Kills the Korg But solo wise the Korg wins and I will sample every thing I like in the Vega and load it to the PA-80 and then I will convert all the styles I like. Only my PA-80 will be a (Ferrari PA-80).
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#308618 - 09/16/02 12:27 PM Re: KORG PA-80 vs Vega
isalem Offline
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Registered: 09/03/02
Posts: 55
Loc: VA
turkmusic,

A Fiat to a Mercedes is pretty extreme, LOL.

Both asafar and eddy made an excellent point. You can use the Drum Kits/Styles from the Vega or X1. Add to that, the ability to load samples and probably better sounds.

So, considering all of the above, where do you still see the Vega's strength, excluding the 1/4 tone buttons.

Don't take me the wrong way, I am just curious about your opinion knowing all the facts above. Unless you have a limited edition Mercedes (Vega) , then it’s a different story.

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#308619 - 09/16/02 01:26 PM Re: KORG PA-80 vs Vega
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Registered: 01/19/02
Posts: 13
Loc: Turkey
Hello Guys, I am posting this message thru my friend Turkmusic computer and my name is Eddy Kanaan (I made the VEGA oriental sounds and styles plus the oriental modifications for the operating system) and I tell you with my consideration to your knowledge in sampling that the VEGA drum sets cannot be sampled exactly the same and you cant convert the VEGA styles to any keyboard because they will play so different and for the following reasons:

1. The VEGA drum sets use layer sounds, which change referring to the velocity range.

2. The VEGA drum sets use effects splits which means that for example for the DOM of the Tabla, doholla, katem, tabel there is no effect at all, and for each percussion we gave different effect. That’s what makes the style quality very clear on stage.

3. The VEGA styles are composed from two drum sets, one is occidental and the other is oreintal, the map of the occidental drum set is not GM and use the layer technology.

4. All the VEGA styles use the drum mixer facility for oriental percussion family groups. For example to whom who doesn't know the VEGA architecture, we can adjust the volume of the tabla, reck, doholla, katem, tabel, orclaps and sagat using the drum mixer and that is not thru velocity, it is a special control change recognized only by the VEGA. So we mixed the styles using this special technique and without it the VEGA styles will play so wrong.

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#308620 - 09/16/02 02:11 PM Re: KORG PA-80 vs Vega
Maged Offline
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Registered: 03/26/01
Posts: 246
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Eddy Kanaan, great to see you writing in this Oriental forum, this is the place a person like you should be (Like AJ in the general arranger forum and Chris in GEM).
Eddy Awada, please answer Abdalla’s question above .

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#308621 - 09/16/02 05:31 PM Re: KORG PA-80 vs Vega
asafar Offline
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Registered: 08/13/01
Posts: 374
Loc: New York
Hi Eddy Kanaan
It’s nice to hear from you for the 1st time (that's if you are not Turkmusic in disguise).
Any way like Maged said it would be nice of you if you can spare 10 minutes of your time every day or night and give us more information on the features of the Vega and what does the Lebanese Vega come with that the ones we have don't have and maybe answer some of our questions.
Abdallah Safar.
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#308622 - 09/16/02 07:12 PM Re: KORG PA-80 vs Vega
vic83 Offline
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Registered: 12/31/69
Posts: 610
Loc: Florida
Nice to see you here Eddy kanaan any project with Roland?.

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#308623 - 09/16/02 07:15 PM Re: KORG PA-80 vs Vega
eddy awada Offline
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Registered: 12/14/99
Posts: 636
Loc: MI,usa
Eddy Kanaan is not turkmusic, that i know for sure, as a matter of fact i happen to know turkmusic's real name but i can't state it here unless he wants to, it starts with an S .

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#308624 - 09/16/02 07:23 PM Re: KORG PA-80 vs Vega
Mosiqaar Offline
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Registered: 12/01/01
Posts: 999
Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
Nice discussion...

Well Finally the man we have heard about shows up...welcome to the Forum Eddy Kannaaan.

I add my vote to ASAFAR about u being able to join us here, and if not, maybe you can provide us with an email address to ask questions if that is ok with you. We know with all the developments ur doing on those keyboards that you are pretty busy, but nevertheless if you can answer some of our questions on your spare time that would be great help to all of us and many more.

Samer
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#308625 - 09/16/02 09:52 PM Re: KORG PA-80 vs Vega
turkmusic Offline
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Registered: 01/19/02
Posts: 13
Loc: Turkey
Good Eddy, it seems that you know my real name but can you tell me how you guessed it?

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#308626 - 09/20/02 02:35 PM Re: KORG PA-80 vs Vega
asafar Offline
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Registered: 08/13/01
Posts: 374
Loc: New York
Guess what?
I have sampled one of the Vega's ORkits ,ORkit-1 which is used on most of the styles and edited the samples on the Triton then ported to PA-80 and then I played the Vega using the sounds from the PA-80 and sounded little better on PA-80 because the speakers on PA-80 sounds better and the EFX sounds better too.
Now I'm in the process of recording the styles to the PA-80.
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