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#305207 - 02/25/07 11:18 AM Tyros 2 copy styles
Piper-Pilot Offline
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Registered: 02/25/07
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Hi all I wonder if it's just my keyboard but I have a difficult time copying parts from one section to the another I get an out of memory message. I didn't use much of my internal memory!
For example I want to use guitar serenade but want a strum to go along with the picking. Variation B has a strum. However they are both on the Chord #1 section of the accompaniment. Is it possible to copy this strum and to assign it to Chord # 2 on the accompaniment? Thsi is where I get an out of memory message.
Thanks for your responses.
Jake



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#305208 - 03/26/07 03:10 AM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Kenneth Gundersen Offline
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1 month old question. You can maybe try ask your question over at www.Tyros2.Net and see if someone over there can answer your question.

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#305209 - 03/26/07 03:22 AM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Graham UK Offline
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You use the Style mix & Match in the keyboard. This enables you to copy style parts from one style to another. It's wise to use styles from the same catagory.
Put the styles you want to work on into USER. This make life easy by them all being in the same place.

It's all in the manual.

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#305210 - 03/26/07 08:40 AM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Craig_UK Offline
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Registered: 11/23/04
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You'd also be better off posting the question on YPKO (the best Yamaha forum there is) http://www.yamahapkowner.com/

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#305211 - 03/27/07 08:40 AM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Jørgen Sørensen Offline
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Registered: 10/24/99
Posts: 361
Loc: Denmark
Hi

- or any of the fora listed at http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/fora.htm

Kind Regards
Jørgen

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#305212 - 04/10/07 12:23 PM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
RobertG Offline
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Jørgen: I failed latin. Are you using Fora as the plural of Forum? I think Forums is more common. But not as classy.

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#305213 - 04/11/07 09:48 PM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Jørgen Sørensen Offline
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Registered: 10/24/99
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Loc: Denmark
Hi Robert

Seems as both "Forums" and "Fora" is acceptable ( http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/forum ).

I might change to "Forums".

BTW: We have the same discussion in Danish about "Virus" ("Virusser" or "Vira").

Kind Regards
Jørgen

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#305214 - 05/22/07 06:33 AM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Reinhold Offline
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Registered: 05/22/07
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Loc: Germany
A style may consist of up to 8 parts, such as Rhy1, Rhy2, Bass etc.
But every part can internally consist of more than one midi track. Of coarse the number of midi channels is limited to 16. So it may happen, when parts from different styles are copied into one style, that all 16 midi channels are already occupied. In that case the "out of memory" message occurs. The message is misleading, it should read: out of midi channels, because there are not more than 16 midi channels on one cable or within one style or one midi file.

Best wishes,

Reinhold


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#305215 - 05/22/07 07:01 AM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Graham UK Offline
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When using Yamaha Style Mix & Match it replaces style parts with the part selected..it does NOT add to them. So the Styles remains with the same number of channels.

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#305216 - 05/23/07 12:11 AM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Reinhold Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Graham UK:
When using Yamaha Style Mix & Match it replaces style parts with the part selected..it does NOT add to them. So the Styles remains with the same number of channels.


Ok: one part is replaced by one different part. But the two concerned parts may internally consist of a different numbers of midi channels. It is easy to understand: just open a style in your software sequencer and check the number of midi channels with the same prg# number. Some guitar parts in Tyros consist of up to 4, 5 or even more midi channels. I know it, I have made some of them.

Reinhold

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#305217 - 05/26/07 10:11 PM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
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Quote:
Originally posted by Reinhold:
Ok: one part is replaced by one different part. But the two concerned parts may internally consist of a different numbers of midi channels. It is easy to understand: just open a style in your software sequencer and check the number of midi channels with the same prg# number. Some guitar parts in Tyros consist of up to 4, 5 or even more midi channels. I know it, I have made some of them.

Reinhold


So Reinhold,
Is it then possible to merge these "same instrument" midi channels ontp one channel thereby fixing the "full memory" problem?
I ask this because I've come across styles that I can not even open in my psr 2100's style creator without getting a "stop memory full" message.
Thank you,
Jim
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#305218 - 05/26/07 11:13 PM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Graham UK Offline
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Reinhold. I think you will find that the other midi tracks containing the same PRG No refer and used when changing the chord from Major to Minor particularly Intro's & Endings.

All Yamaha Styles are made up this way.


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#305219 - 05/27/07 04:05 AM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
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Quote:
Originally posted by Graham UK:
Reinhold. I think you will find that the other midi tracks containing the same PRG No refer and used when changing the chord from Major to Minor particularly Intro's & Endings.
All Yamaha Styles are made up this way.
[This message has been edited by Graham UK (edited 05-26-2007).]


To all experienced yamaha style enthusiests:

Ok so is there any other suggestions how I can/should tweak a style that I can not even open in my psr 2100's style creater without getting a "full memory" message?
I would gladly e-mail you the style with my wish-list changes if you can and would help me.
I humbly ask please,
Thank you,
Jim
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#305220 - 05/27/07 10:44 AM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Graham UK Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 1925
Loc: Lincolnshire UK
OldNewb. Yamaha Style files have improved over the past few years and are now more complex so the files have become larger. Earlier models such as your 2100 cannot load these larger filed styles.
Michael Bedseem has produced some free programs Style Management Series that can reduce and trim such a styles size. Check out this link.
http://www.svpworld.com/psr_software.htm

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#305221 - 06/03/07 12:54 PM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
Reinhold Offline
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Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 10
Loc: Germany
Quote:
Originally posted by OldNewb:
To all experienced yamaha style enthusiests:

Ok so is there any other suggestions how I can/should tweak a style that I can not even open in my psr 2100's style creater without getting a "full memory" message?
I would gladly e-mail you the style with my wish-list changes if you can and would help me.

Hi Jim, sorry for the delay, I was "on the road". Please send me your style and your wish-list. Right now I have here a Tyros2, a Tyros, a PSR-9000, an A-1000 turkish version, a PSR-403 and some computers and tools. So there is no PSR-2100, but I will see what I can do.
Best wishes,

Reinhold

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#305222 - 06/03/07 07:25 PM Re: Tyros 2 copy styles
OldNewb Offline
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Registered: 01/19/04
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Loc: Shorewood Wi. USA
Thank you Reinhold for the kind offer, but I was able to get what I needed.
I first removed all ots then I was able to edit and save the style usingg style creator, then I was also able to place ots back...I'm good to go.
Jim
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