Hello, I'm very new in here. I would like to ask few questions about my Roland G-800 which I have few years ago, but I still let it cover by dust. Can I use Roland G-1000 styles to G-800 ? I mean, Is G-800 compaliable styles files with G-1000 ? Thank you

Hello SeadooGsx,

All the sounds in G800 are available in G1000 = everything you can play on G800, you can also play on G1000.

G1000 have a new soundbank with several new sounds and several new variations on sounds. If you play G1000 styles which uses this new soundbank on G800 then it wouldn´t recognise the sounds. This can result in that G800 chooses wrong instrument or no instrument at all. The styles from G1000 sounds therefore more or less weird on G800.

Some of the G1000 styles however uses soundbanks that are available in G800. These stylse work well (=sounds exactly the same on both arrangers).

You can also change the instruments in a G1000 style so it uses soundbanks from G800. This you can do either in G1000 or in G800.

With a little tweak, you can get the new G1000 styles to sound very good in G800, though not as good as in G1000 with the newer soundbank.

When I had my G800, I found some G1000 styles on the net which I converted with good result. Unfortunately I don´t have them anymore. (I have the G1000 itself since tree years.)

Regards, Michael

Hello Bluesuede, thank you for reply me. I still have G-800. I can't exchange to G-1000 right now because the financial. Do you have any link or step by step to create the custom style which fit with my need. Or any link to down load the style. Thanks again

When I converted the G1000 styles for G800 I just used the manual. In the "microedit" you can change every sounds CC and PC.

You have to edit every part (drums, bass etc...) and every variation (maj, min, 7, orig, vari, intro, etc...)and then save this as a new style. You change the CC (if I remember it correctly) from 0 (G1000) to 1 or 2 (older soundbanks available in G800 ).

This takes some time (and sweat the first times) but when you´ve got used to it, you can edit a style in maybe 5 to 15 minutes or so depending of complexity.

I also use "microedit" to change strange sounding styles from other companies. I´ve edited lots of Ketron and Yamaha styles (allready converted to Roland - but strange sounding in some parts) this way to make them sound good on my keyboard.

Regards, Michael

Thank you for reply me, I down load the UPMmanager files, and open it, I saw it use for .UPS file. What is the appliction use for ? can I use that to create style for my G-800 which is .stl file. Thanks in advance.

UPM is a basic performance manager for PC (mac?) use (if it is the same I´m thinking of). You can´t edit any styles, you can just name/rename and sort your performances. This is anyhow very handy sometimes, because it is very time consuming to do this directly on your keyboard.

I´ve seen an "UPS editor" somewhere on the net. This is a performance editor for PC. UPS lets you change everything that is changeble in a performance. Without changing the actual style itself it is possibel to save some style editing in a performance though. Ex. volumes, sounds, parts on/off.

Regards, Michael

Thank you for explain to me. I still confuse about UPM. I have down load few styles on the net, and it works great with my G-800. I pay attention that they all are .stl file, but UPM is .ups file.How can I make .ups file become a .stl file so I can put on floppy and play on my G-800. Thanks.

Thank you very much for your patient to lead me to the electronic music world. I'm vey new to the arranger style of G-800.

.stl file and .ups file are two different things. You can´t convert one of them to be the other. The ".stl" is (as you already know) the style file with its intro, ending etc. The ".ups" is a performance file and no style at all.

Your G800 has 192 performance memory places. It works like this. Every time you will play a song, you choose a style, voices for right and left hand, perhaps chorus and reverb settings, maybe equlizer, etc, etc. All this you can save in one of your 192 performances. You can also name every performance so that you later on will have a hint of what you have saved.

This means that G800 lets you save up to 192 different performances, all with various styles (from the 128 rom or from floppy!), voices for left and right hand etc. All suitable for whatever songs you want to play.

But when you´ve filled upp your 192 performances, then what? Then you can save it (all 192 in one package) as ".ups" file. You can for instance have one ups with partysettings for younger audience with lot of synth, you can have one with your jazz favs with sax, etc and depending on occation you can load the ups you want and have immidiate link to suitable styles, sounds, effect settings, etc.

There are lots of styles (and some ready made .ups) on the net for your G800. Start with Rolands site here on Synth Zone.

Regards, Michael

Wow, thanks for let me know there is lot feature in G-800. After I read what you explain for me, I feel that I was sleep thousand years ago. Now, I 'm lost about .ups file and .stl file. Please consider that I'm very very new to this G-800 althought I have my G-800 for 3 years now. I just leave my G-800 for dust covering it. Is any source can I read more and experience more about those files. Thanks

I saw some style from G-800 is not fit with my need. so, can I make my own style from scratch. Also, How can I make style Drum in step by step mode ( I mean, enter note by note for Drum part ). Others instrument I think I can play along with drum. thank you every much

I don't know my problem with Roland G-800 or the way Roland write manual book and even I bought the video manual too. Everytime I come back to G-800 and have problem with manual step into the drum part and the bass part. Anyone, please give me a tip to work on my G-800 with manual drum and bass part. I have a litle express from my personal to Roland product now. The way they program their software of G-800 is so hard. Frankly, I don't have any problem of my Korg and Yamaha from the start out of the box. It's frustrated with Roland. Thanks

It´s funny! Some people (me for instance) have no problem at all with Roland G-series, and some people (my father for instance) gets tired in just a couple of minutes wondering who the h... has designed this shit!

I just love to work with it and I can do anything I want (almost) while my daddy barerly can find the power swich.

Maybe you´re no G-man SeadooGsx .

Anyhow, her is a link to some good styles for your G-800.
http://www.roland.dk/Drivers/styles/G-800_1000%20EM-2000.zip

Regards, Michael

Hi BlueSuede

Maybe I'm not G man for sure, but I'm not give up easy like that with G-800. Frankly, I kick my G-800 few time ( hihihiii just got mad ). Yesterday, I sit down and say that I'll have patient with G-800 again, and I did make Drum and bass part ( not the step in note by note enter ) I find that , G-800 only allow you to arase track in the individual such as In + End, Basic Ad Maj, etc.. Why don't Roland write sofware that I can arase all in 1 step that can save time ? And can you show me how to arase the part of instrument in drum which I don't like such as :
After I put bass drum in, and then snare, and then hihat ( G-800 only has 1 ADR track for drum ), but I don't like hihat, I want to change hihat, I have to arase all the ADR drum part which include bass frum, snare, and then hihat. That is not good logic of writing sofware or I'm wrong correct me. Thanks

You´re quite right that it is very time consuming to edit tracks when you have to make it in every variation. Roland should have made it easier!

You can also only use one drumtrack. And this track can only use one pre made drumset. And you can´t edit the drum sets very much. This can of course be somewhat limited.

But you can do some things in microscope edit mode.

Good luck!

Michael

Yes, I did go to Micro edit, and change , arase some part of drum I don't like. The hardest part is make the bass ( guitar ), and accomp similar to the song I want. I hard. The bass is hard to do sound as the same as bass player in the song. Do you have any tip or idea to do bass and accomp part ? . IT took me all weekend try to make the bass sound like the song but I can't. Thanks

I haven´t rally made any style from scratch. (Just a few for fun - but nothing worth saving.) But I have made a lot of tweaking of existing styles - mainly from other arranger companies.

The most time for this I spend in micro- mode. But I sometimes use other edit modes, for instance when I edit drumtrack of Ketron styles. Then I can delete or transpose that weird sounding note in all variations at the same time, etc.

If you want to create a track from scratch, the micro mode is very difficult to use. It´s better to do a real time recording of the track, and afterwords edit it in micro or any other mode.

I´m not sure this is what you asked, but this was the answer you got .

Did you by the way download the styles in one of my previous postings? There are some really hot ones!

Michael

Thanks you for your reply. Yes, I find out that make the drum track from the scratch in the Micro is very hard because Roland G-800 use number to replace the note such as 120 = quarter note. I don't know some styles from the link you mention about. So , could you please to lead me to the link so I can down load the styles for my Roland G-800. Thanks

The link is http://www.roland.dk/Drivers/styles/G-800_1000%20EM-2000.zip

This file contains 111 styles for G-series and many of them are very good.

To open this file you need a program called "winzip". This program is available in freevare version on the net.

When you opened the file, you just have to let winzip copy the styles you want to a floppy and voilà! you can use it on your G-800.

Michael

Thank you for give me the link. I'll down load and try it. Then I post for result. Any way, I almost done the style I work now. After working with style on G-800 I find out that it's very detail in style if I spend lot of time to the detail the song would become great. I have question ? Can I copy the drum part of Basic Or to Adv Or ( in the user style ) ? bacause I find out that if I make the drum part of BAsic Or and then go to Adv Or, I have to make it again. I know that I have option do drum part as Basic = Adv Or = Va. Any tip on copy part to part in user style mode. I start getting interest to this G-800 now. Thanks for your help so far.

I have had experienced my G800 so far, and find out that it's great keyboard. It has lot of feature which I can do detail of the style I want ( of course I can not do exactly to the specific song I want ). But, my question is Why Roland who made G-800 doesn't make the middle part of the song. I mean G-800 offers Intro and Ending part which you can program exactly to the song you want, but why don't they make the middle part of the song, so you can use lead guitar to play along with that part. Thanks