http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfITHJcE6UE

So what do you think?.....great player but Hammond clone I'm not so sure of....
I would say NORD units have a better
H clone. It sort of lacks the Deep Leslie Gusto.



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To me it's a barrage of notes that don't necessarily tell me much about the product or the sounds.

The guy is clearly a gifted keyboard player, but generally speaking nobody plays arrangers like this in the real world. It's like a contest to cram in as many notes as you possible can and it burns my ears trying to judge how good it sounds.

Regards
James

well said James you not alone in this thinking!

Playing the Audya at that speed would cause it to have a note stick on, mine's done it twice today and only play 1/4 of that speed.

Hi Tony.
You still have the Audya?

I thought you had given up on that and moved on.

Regards
James

What would cause that sticking in an Audya and not a Korg PA2x?

For every single note played there is note on, velocity, pitch and note off data. Notes getting stuck is normally caused by the note off data getting lost due to bandwidth or poor signal.

Normally you only find this happening if your in the Studio and your using a stupidly long midi cable. Having this happen internally in the Audya suggest design flaw.

Regards
James

James thanks for the answer...of course slower playing wouldn't be a p[roblem...

btw check your email

Hammond clone - no way. But on second thought, it is a H clone and sounds like it. It's certainly not the real thing especially in the upper registers and with a few of those settings. It has that synth H clone sound which most people will accept as the real thing. But you gotta have a Hammond to say you're playing a Hammond. I've got a Hammond.

Maybe this will make some sense.

A clone of a Hammond will sound more like a real Hammond recorded to CD than the actual Hammond played in the room your sitting in.

What ya think?

James.

I agree with Cassp...it sound like a "synthetic" Hammond...actually, even Korg's CX-3 dedicated clonewheel isn't there yet.

Nord's C1/C2 are the closest I've played, other than the Hammond XK3c (and to a lesser extent, the XK-1), which feels, sounds, and plays like a real Hammond. The multiple key contacts, on the XK3c and a real B-3, are what make the difference as well.

I play a beautifully maintained Hammond B-3/Leslie, sometimes twice a week, at a jam session with my buds...the high end is where the Korg, and most sims, lose it...the Nord is much closer, but also loses points because of the buttons instead of drawbars.

A B-3 (and XK-3c/XK-1) scream at the top end, but in a much more earthy and organic (no pun intended) way than the Korg (and the Nord), which sound artificial.

I also play an XK-1 occasionally at a friend's studio.

The player in this demo, doesn't seem to have played a real B-3 very much, as the mixture of harmonics on a real B makes for a different approach, both in chord voicing, and phrasing...much like a Rhodes is voiced and phrased differently than an acoustic piano.

Perhaps if the player in the vid phrased and voiced differently, it would sound a bit more authentic.

The Hammond XK3c is still the boss.

Ian

What do you think of the drums? to me they sound Tight on the Korg in a different way timber wise, then Yamaha units....but nowhere near the live sound of the Audya, but is not necessarily a good thing within the overall mix.

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I like the Korg drums for the same reason I like the Yamaha...they sound polished, although, not to the extent they are on the latter.

I also like Korg's modern jazz and fusion type styles...very tastefully programmed.

Ian