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#301247 - 12/20/10 05:22 AM Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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#301248 - 12/20/10 05:27 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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FLY EAGLES FLY on the road to VICKtory!!

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#301249 - 12/20/10 08:34 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Ravens beat the Saints - that is all I care about.

Eagle Fans ? who dat ?
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#301250 - 12/20/10 09:03 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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but you know what flies higher than
EAGLES?

JETS... my friends

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#301251 - 12/20/10 09:57 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Originally posted by leezone:
but you know what flies higher than
EAGLES?

JETS... my friends


Ah but the Patriots of this country built it
into the strong country it is today Can another Super Bowl Victory be in store. Ya, just never know..........I can just about walk to Stadium from where I work.

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#301252 - 12/20/10 02:32 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Hey Tony, what happened to your Giants? Man, that was the worst 'choke' since Donny got a request for James Brown's 'Say it loud, I'm Black and I'm proud' at his recent Kwanzaa gig .

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#301253 - 12/20/10 02:44 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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I realize this thread SHOULD be in "The Bar", but ... ...
I am STILL in shock over that game ... to me the turning point was the onside kick that the GIANTS were totally unprepared for ... they weren't ready for it because THEY don't play that way ... they would have just kicked deep and hoped to stop the opponent again ... kudos to the e-girls coaching staff ... the GIANTS beat the crap out of them for 52+ minutes ... too bad the game was 60 minutes long ... but I don't think Vick wants to see the G's defense again for a long time ...
The e-girls and their fans can put this great win right up there with their Super Bowl wins ... oh wait ... the e-girls don't have any ... ooops my bad ...
http://www.super-bowl-history.us/superbowl-history15.html
http://www.super-bowl-history.us/superbowl-history39.html

And Steve ... 14 - 6 is STILL better than 18 - 1 ...
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footba...per_bowl-2.html

lee ... good win for your guys ...

t.
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#301254 - 12/20/10 05:12 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Originally posted by tony mads usa:
I realize this thread SHOULD be in "The Bar", but ... ...
I am STILL in shock over that game ... to me the turning point was the onside kick that the GIANTS were totally unprepared for ... they weren't ready for it because THEY don't play that way ... they would have just kicked deep and hoped to stop the opponent again ... kudos to the e-girls coaching staff ... the GIANTS beat the crap out of them for 52+ minutes ... too bad the game was 60 minutes long ... but I don't think Vick wants to see the G's defense again for a long time ...
The e-girls and their fans can put this great win right up there with their Super Bowl wins ... oh wait ... the e-girls don't have any ... ooops my bad ...
http://www.super-bowl-history.us/superbowl-history15.html
http://www.super-bowl-history.us/superbowl-history39.html

And Steve ... 14 - 6 is STILL better than 18 - 1 ...
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footba...per_bowl-2.html

lee ... good win for your guys ...

t.


Gotta point Tony and that was a bitter pill!! At least you're a Yankee fan.

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#301255 - 12/23/10 07:29 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Originally posted by tony mads usa:
right up there with their Super Bowl wins


Before the Lil Giants can win a forth Superbowl, they need to learn how to win a fourth QUARTER! lol

Let's see ... the most dangerous kick returner is waiting for this ball....think I'll kick it right to him! yeah, THAT'S the ticket! It was poetry, my friends... Poetry
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#301256 - 12/23/10 07:43 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
Before the Lil Giants can win a forth Superbowl, they need to learn how to win a fourth QUARTER! lol

Let's see ... the most dangerous kick returner is waiting for this ball....think I'll kick it right to him! yeah, THAT'S the ticket! It was poetry, my friends... Poetry



He was SUPPOSED to kick it out of bounds ...
That was the price they paid for having a rookie punter get a high snap and thinking he COULDN'T kick it out of bounds ... ...

t.
PS ... remind me not to attend any of your 'poetry readings' ...
t.
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#301257 - 12/23/10 08:00 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Just get to the playoffs & never lose

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#301258 - 12/24/10 05:55 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Eagles showed a lot of never give up spirit to pull that one off and the Giants went in a fog after 52 minutes of great play. No matter, I was at the famous "Fumble Game" years ago. We'll recover and go on.

I do however think its a total disgrace that the NFL allows players like Vick to even be in the league. Its a shame that the almighty dollar allows low life criminals to make millions to entertain us because they can run fast and throw a ball.

Just my $.02.

Bill in NJ
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#301259 - 12/24/10 06:19 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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I don't like Vick personally, but if the courts said he gets a second chance, who is the NFL to not let a man work? I think Pete Rose belongs in the hall of fame too, but I wouldn't want either one of them over for dinner. I think the justice system failed here, not the NFL. Vick's a free man because of the courts, and I actually do think everyone deserves a second chance if they pay the price.
I'm not trying to start a fire here ... just sayin' that I don't blame the Eagles or the NFL for something the justice system did.
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#301260 - 12/24/10 06:28 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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#301261 - 12/24/10 08:48 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
I don't like Vick personally, but if the courts said he gets a second chance, who is the NFL to not let a man work? I think Pete Rose belongs in the hall of fame too, but I wouldn't want either one of them over for dinner........................

............I actually do think everyone deserves a second chance if they pay the price.


Thanks for having some sense of fairness here. Thousands of people, mostly in southern states, engage in dogfighting everyday and there's no wail of protest. Furthermore, none have forfeited 100 million dollars and served nearly two years in prison for dogfighting. Personally, I loathe and despise this 'sport' and all it's offshoot such as bullfighting, cockfighting, etc. And is boxing very much different? We kill thousands of cows every day, sometimes in the most inhumane way, just to fatten up our already overweight kids on 'Big Macs'. In some cultures, cows are sacred. In others, dogs are culinary delicacies. We kill deer and elk and so-called game birds just for sport and very few of those calling for Vick's head seem to give a sh-t about that. Makes you wonder what the real venom and hatred towards him is all about. Given the price he's already paid and his obvious efforts to atone for what he did and resurrect his image, what more is he supposed to do? Hang himself? Where is that great American tradition of compassion and forgiveness?

And as far as making all that money for being able to throw a football and run fast, it's a pittance compared to what the team owners make and believe me, he wouldn't be making it if we weren't willing to pay to see it.

To all the 'haters' in the world, take a break for the holidays.

Happy holidays and a prosperous new year to you all.

chas
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#301262 - 12/24/10 09:32 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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OK , one more log on the Yule fire and I'm almost sorry I started it. We all know about Eagles Fans (wink wink)

Vick paid the "court's price", but if you dig deeper you will learn people like him are really never cured. Much of what he did couldn't even be released in court. I also don't believe in his efforts to resurrect his image, its all for the cash and status. He admitted if he was never caught he would still be doing it. First party he has when released there's a shooting because he's hanging with the same gang bangers he associated with before. NFL looked away again. He's by far not alone and I don't condone any of the other actions mentioned, but he, weather he likes it or not, is a role model for kids. I'm a life long Giants fan and if Lawrence Taylor were still playing I think he should be kicked to the curb too. The NFL should have a higher moral standard, much like most other professions.
I was a teacher and do you think I would of gotten my job back?

Merry Christmas to all. Try the link below. All you have to do is click on the box for them to receive food donations from corporate sponsors..
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com

Bill in NJ

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#301263 - 12/27/10 06:29 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Originally posted by Bill Lewis:
The NFL should have a higher moral standard


Wow - while it would be lovely if every profession DID have a moral standard, I don't expect it from an entertainment industry, like pro sports. There is no moral compass in a high profit, big boys game industry like football. Teachers, nurses, cops, firefighters .... these are positions of moral standard, but pro football is 100% for entertainment at a high level of profit. That's all it is and all it ever will be.

BTW - thanx Green Bay!
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#301264 - 12/27/10 07:05 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Lewis:
....weather he likes it or not, (he) is a role model for kids.



Shouldn't the parents be the primary role model for kids? I don't think that's a pro athlete's resposibility. I think "Sir Charles" (Barkley) had it right.

BTW, looks like the Giants "are what we thought they were". Sorry Tony, maybe we'll see you next season.



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#301265 - 12/27/10 09:24 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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I don't follow sports at all, but, man isn't it GREAT that this thread covered the Vick deal with dog fighting, the role of parents in raising kids, the sad condition involving overweight kids, other animal humane issues, SPORTS and more; ending with sincere wishes for the holidays?

THAT'S GREAT, and speaks to the intelligence and humanity of the posters.

Way to go, Chas and all others!


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#301266 - 12/27/10 10:00 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
Wow - while it would be lovely if every profession DID have a moral standard, I don't expect it from an entertainment industry, like pro sports. There is no moral compass in a high profit, big boys game industry like football. Teachers, nurses, cops, firefighters .... these are positions of moral standard, but pro football is 100% for entertainment at a high level of profit. That's all it is and all it ever will be.

BTW - thanx Green Bay!


Is there a moral standard in ANY entertainment venue???

Quote:
Originally posted by cgiles:

Shouldn't the parents be the primary role model for kids? I don't think that's a pro athlete's resposibility. I think "Sir Charles" (Barkley) had it right.

BTW, looks like the Giants "are what we thought they were". Sorry Tony, maybe we'll see you next season.



chas



chas, Of course parents SHOULD be the primary role models, but let's be real ... how many here can say that between the ages of 10 and 18 our parents were OUR primary role models?!?!? ... even if we realized it later in life, I doubt that many of us admitted to it then ... weren't our 'heroes' athletes, movie stars, etc. ... one thing that is different today is that WE did not have access to their every day lives the way we do today ... also, in today's primarily one parent society, it is a lot more difficult for kids to have solid parental role models ... whether it is the athlete, movie star, whatever, 'responsibility' is one thing ... that they ARE held to be role models is something else ...

And in the words of another 'hero' of mine, "It ain't over till it's over" ...

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#301267 - 12/27/10 01:03 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Common even President Obama loves Michael Vick!!

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#301268 - 12/28/10 07:19 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Ooops .... that's a mark in the "negative" column for me!
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#301269 - 12/28/10 10:51 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
Wow - while it would be lovely if every profession DID have a moral standard, I don't expect it from an entertainment industry, like pro sports. There is no moral compass in a high profit, big boys game industry like football. Teachers, nurses, cops, firefighters .... these are positions of moral standard, but pro football is 100% for entertainment at a high level of profit. That's all it is and all it ever will be.

BTW - thanx Green Bay!


About the only sport with moral responsibility is Golf. You are expected to call penalties not only on your playing partners, but on yourself, and it happens a lot. It's not perfect, but it's about the only sport that doesn't ENCOURAGE cheating if you can get away with it.
There are many hundreds of situation where a player has lost a lot of money by calling a penalty on himself, when nobody else would ever know what happened.
Imagine a football game where a receiver catches a touchdown pass, and then goes to the referee and says, "Sorry, I know you didn't see it but I pushed off on that reception, so we'll take a 10 yard penalty and try it again."
By the way, don't count out the Defending World Champion New Orleans Saints. They are healthy again.
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#301270 - 12/28/10 11:51 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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I'm still not counting out the Giants! They should be pissed by now - anything can happen, and they went to the show last time as a wildcard too ..... Week at a time...week at a time.
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#301271 - 01/02/11 04:41 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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#301272 - 01/02/11 04:12 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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sorry G girls...better luck next year!!

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#301273 - 01/02/11 05:05 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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... at least they didn't lose today ... thanks for nothing Bears !!!
40 days 'till pitchers and catchers ...

t.
ps ... gooooooooo J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS !!!

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#301274 - 01/03/11 10:12 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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WOW!!!!! Did the Packers give em a spanking or what, oooouch1
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#301275 - 01/03/11 10:18 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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WOW!!!!! Did the Packers give em a spanking or what, oooouch1


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#301276 - 01/03/11 01:02 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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It's pretty hard to take the Giants not getting in when the Seahawks win the division and take a 1st week bye with a 7-9 record!!!!

wth?
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#301277 - 01/03/11 02:19 PM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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It's pretty hard to take the Giants not getting in when the Seahawks win the division and take a 1st week bye with a 7-9 record!!!!

wth?


I've got a feeling this is something that will be looked at (closely) during the off-season. For one thing, you shouldn't be allowed in the playoffs with a losing record. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

chas
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#301278 - 01/04/11 09:55 AM Re: Yo! Giants Fans, I can't hear you :)
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Originally posted by cgiles:
I've got a feeling this is something that will be looked at (closely) during the off-season. For one thing, you shouldn't be allowed in the playoffs with a losing record. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

chas



Of course the reason for the many 'divisions' in all sports is to keep interest for those teams who might not have such a great record but still have a shot at getting into the playoffs ...
I don't know if anything can/will ever be done about the scenario where a team wins a division with a losing record, but they certainly should not be given a home field game ... I think home field should be decided by best records of the playoff teams ...
As for the GIANTS, putting aside the ridiculous 8 minutes against the e-girls, they should have never lost to the Titans and Dallas at home ...

t.
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