Bill when is the Wing out they said 22 Dec.is it still on.

Hi Tony
Check with Wersi Direct as they should be touring the UK with it in February.
Bill

When will this be available in the US?

It looks good, but i don't know. Can it be performed with?

that freaking website has some serious problems, it slows down my PC to a snail's pace.
I guess Tony Hughes was right about not believing about the Wing, wasn't it out in november?

Gods bill Feb 2010 now, this is just like Ketron, is the Wersi being made in Italy

I thought it was just me, it locks the mouse up, it's a crap site, crap web pages as you say, it locks the bloody PC up, flashing wing page complete and utter tosh, lets hope the KB is better. It will sound good but when it goes wrong they won't be in business to repair, give Ketron their due they are still out there, MS like a door mouse, their advertising budget has been capped. Wonder how many T3 have been sold so far???

1. Wersi Direct is doing a Pegasus Wing Demo tour in February; it did not say that this was when it was due out. (This is planned much earlier)

2. Wersi does not exist, so it is impossible for it to go out of Business. (It is merely a Brand Name owned by Music Store http://www.musicstore.de/en_EN/GBP/WelcomePage )

3. The flashing is part of the animation, and is taken from the German site.

4. I agree; there are compatibility issues between the site and Internet Explorer, (Hopefully being worked on) however all other browsers work fine. (Just try Google Chrome)

Bill

Google Chrome? No thanks. Let us know when the site is working

Whats wrong with Google Chrome.

However if you are set against it there is always Firefox (Always getting rave reviews) and Opera

Bill

I don't install different browsers just because a website doesn't work, Bill. I try to install less, not more

Bill,

Are you part of Wersi, your not Klaus's boy are you. What the hell is so good about something you can't see ,touch and feel and arranger is right when the site works proper and not full of crap I will look at it again, so if you post it here again make sure it works first. Wersi name company or otherwise is begining to sound like a bad dream! Wersi is like painting the Forth Bridge it never bloody ends, I hope this is the last time we see them.

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the way I understand it is that Bill is just a good guy and an enthusiast. But I agree about what you said about Wersi. What's their point? We are interested in the Wing at 2600 euros as I am sure many others are, but let's not play games...if they say 'november' and then 'MAYBE it's going to be 'february' then why not just announcing it in JANUARY.
Once only.
No one likes games. Or at least announce on the website that there will be delays, this and that, etc...


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Hey, looks like they do it the "Ketron way" as we know it from when Audya was on the way.

The pricelevel is more in the T4 and other brands level, and sure much much below Audya.
Maybe Pegasus Wing will be a better choice than we think?

Cheers
GJ

As far as I can tell, Tyros 4 and Audya are about the same price.
We gripe when companies won't give any information about new releases, then gripe when they estimate releases and don't come through.
The Wing would have to sound WAY better than any Wersi demos I've heard in the past to be a serious option.
I hope it happens though. Competition is really needed in the arranger market.
DonM

can't say for sure, but as good as the Tyros is, the Pegasus Wing's features put it in another league....

it's all speculation, though. At least the Tyros can be found for sale

The Audya is an overpriced keyboard.
4200 sterling pound? Crazy....
for that money, I would expect an instrument that's nothing less than perfect in every area.



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Sadly, that's not the fact in the country where I live, whatever reason.
Audya US$7830 (at the moment at "offer" price)
Tyros4 US$5166 (and that's even lower than T3!!)

Pegasus Wing announced to US$4998 (when it shows up)

Cheers
GJ

Don,
Tyos 4 and Audya same price?
HUH?
What does a T4 cost today..(I Think $3300.00) an Audya?
Thanks,
Lee S.

don't know elsewhere, but in the UK the Tyros 4 is a bit cheaper than the audya (about 20 per cent).

As far as I can tell, they are both overpriced.

I don't understand why, when Korg makes a workstation like Triton, M3, etc, it's always priced at £ 1699, about half as much as Tyros 4.

Yet I would say that an M3 is an even more complex instrument...it can read sample libraries ,etc etc

I like arrangers more as I don't like thinkering and prefer to focus on music, but still, why the hell the Tyros and Audya are priced at over twice as much, is beyond me.

you need to compare like for like. The Tyros 4 is 61 notes, and should be compared to the Audya 5 for price.

Tyros 3 was more money than the Audya 76 note at the time the Audya was released.

In January all the UK prices will be going up again due to the VAT rise!

3 guesses where the Wing is being made and it isn’t Italy ??? and it will be Jan 2011 now or at least we think so!

yes you are right about the Audya ....and the VAT rise is really bad news. It was bad enought before, but now...

Wersi Pegasus Wing €2590
Korg PA2x Pro €2790
Yamaha Tyros 4 €3679
Ketron Audya 5 €3748
Ketron Audya €3990
Lionstracs Groove X6 €4179
Lionstracs Groove X7 €4599

All above prices are from German sites (Including Google Product Search) to allow for direct comparisons.

Bill

Bill,

Have you ever thought the Wing might be a cheap piece of crap, or you need to buy £2000 worth of Disks to make it sound good, or is it cheaper because it's made in China, you're the Wersi man can you tell us? Why is the Groove so expensive? Is it only made in 10s at a time? In fact Bill are you the only Wersi man and I will be No2 if I buy a Wersi Wing when it comes out!

Merry Christmas Bill

Or maybe it's a real good sounding arrangerkeyboard where things work when start play, and you
can buy "addon packs" to expand it to fit your personal needs and taste.
Even if put on €2k addons you still end up cheeper than Audya in my country, and it may also be
far less faults/bugs than your Audya. Then you can play and enjoy it from day 1!

Cheers & Happy Christmas
GJ

Maybe you are right Jonny, Wersi has unique sounds, I can't wait to here it. When will you get sight of it.

Tony

doesn't make much sense to put the Wing in the list, since it is not available for sale at this price yet, and no one can be sure if it will ever be.

who cares? Chinese workmanship nowadays is of high quality and costs much less than Japanese.

I'd rather have that and save considerably. All it matters is how good is the instrument.



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