Hi,

Just want to get some discussion regarding comparision between Korg pa800 and Yamaha PSR s910. I've Korg pa500 and want to replace it either with Korg pa800 or Yamaha PSR s910, please provide your opinion.

Everything imaginable has already been discussed on here ....just do a search for the S910/Pa800 and Im sure you be reading for days. good luck

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-03-2010).]

Best is to wait for the new Korgs to arrive.
Then make your decision.

Kashif,
Tell me what you like and don't like about the PA500 and I'll try to answer your question.

Kashif have you every played on a PSR S910 or PA 800?

Kashif... it helps if you get as specific as you can when deciding these things. You can help us give you a better idea if you clue us in to how you play, how well you play, WHAT music you play (this one is probably more important than any other), what arrangers have you played in the past, etc. etc..

Otherwise, those with Korg's will say 'buy Korg' and those with Yamaha's will say 'buy Yamaha', and you'll be no better off than before!

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Hi Diki,

Thanks for your comment. I had Yamaha PSR 2000 in the past, then I replaced it with Korg pa500. I usually play eastern music mostly containg eastern percussion like Tabla, Dhol but I also play western styles. When I played Korg pa500, It sounds like there is heavy books placing on its speakers, it has very small speakers, low output, when I make customized styles, it doesn't show clearity of each percussion and orchestra as I experienced with Yamaha PSR 2000. You can watch some of my videos on youtube with the name of aliorchestra1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ZAisV-9Co&list=UL&playnext=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B5Z2LsR4wo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkkDnp5IQIU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

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Hi Leeboy,

Thanks for your comment. I had Yamaha PSR 2000 in the past, then I replaced it with Korg pa500. I usually play eastern music mostly containg eastern percussion like Tabla, Dhol but I also play western styles. When I played Korg pa500, It sounds like there is heavy books placing on its speakers, it has very small speakers with low output even with good sound system or amplifier. When I make customized styles, it doesn't show clearity of each percussion and orchestra as I experienced with Yamaha PSR 2000. You can watch some of my videos on youtube with the name of aliorchestra1
and try to feel the difference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ZAisV-9Co&list=UL&playnext=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B5Z2LsR4wo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkkDnp5IQIU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

I played Korg pa800 about 2 yrs ago, but never played Yamaha PSR s910

Hello Kashif,
I would suggest that you check out the Korg forum. There are several discussions regarding the PA800 and eastern music. Couldn't help you with the S900, but I'm sure there is a forum somewhere that could provide you with the info you are seeking.
Ciao,
Jerry http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=50&sid=e788cf2889986400c62434c77d181e5c

Diki,
If you notced I did not do that.

Kashif,
Well, I'm not sure what to tell you.
Did you like the PA800? Why did you sell it?
What's wrong with the PA500 you have?

If I were you, I guess I would go wih the MFG that you think will support your kid of music best.
My guess is the Korg...but I'm not sure.
Korg does have the majority of business in Mid-East.

If you can do your own styles, sounds etc...then I would go with the one you like best in general.

When on you-tube and looking or demos on Korg PA800 most of the music seems to be Middle Eastern.

Lee S.

Lee,
Your restraint is remarkable...

Kashif,

I've had Pa800 and Pa2xpro I just sold my s910. Now this is not scientific, but............2 middle easterners purchased my Korg's and the s910 was purchased by an American who intends to play lots of big band, swing and jazz on the S910. You can draw your own conclusion, but I know which I'd purchase if I were playing middle eastern music.

I have never played the any of the keyboards above, but, aren't you curious about the description of the problem?

It sounds like "heavy books on top of speakers", my guess is it sounds muffled. Could it be an EQ issue?

I have an s910. The major reason I chose that over the PA800 was price. I think the PA800 has a better vocalizer and it's a toss-up over the operating system. Sounds are excellent on both keyboards. The s910 is definitely a joy to play, but if price were equal I would definitely give the PA800 a try.

Hi Trident,

Thanks for your comment. Probably I compare Korg pa500 with Yamaha PSR 2000. I read some reviews on Korg pa500 that "it is a good keyboard if we know how to tweak it" which shows definitely it needs to be change the EQ settings but I'm not sure how. I tried to change some global settings but still didn't get the desired result. Before buying Korg pa500, I supposed it will sound like Korg pa800 with only some functions less, but probably I was wrong, there is a lot of difference in sound quality and output between Korg pa500 and Korg pa800

Kashif,
Did you turn the master EQ on,and tweek it for your room/speakers?

Lee S.

Hi Kashif,
if you create YOUR own middle eastern styles, the korg has some great creation & editing functions. PA800 also has a sampler, so you can load additional sounds that you may want to use in your styles.
(Using other peoples styles that use sampled sounds can sometimes get a bit messy, in the loading & saving procedures.)

If you already have a heap of middle eastern styles that you use? what keyboard are they for?

Even though I have a fair bit of success converting the odd one of my Psr1500
( western type styles ) across to my korg, it's a lot of work getting them to sound reasonable. Converting eastern type music may not be as simple if both keyboards don't share the same instruments.

It's going to be easier to tweek any eastern psr2000 styles you may have to psrs910 than it is to convert to korg.

Also was your PA500 an oriental version of the keyboard? It quite possibly may contain some sounds the PA800 doesn't have.

You can download korg manuals and do a comparison.

best wishes
Rikki

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Kashif,

Have you considered keeping the PA-500 and adding the PSR 710 ????
Furthermore I would think a choice between Yamaha and Korg a NON-ISSUE for oriental music. Forgive me if I am no judge of this music but surely the PA-500 oriental version beats ANY Yamaha keyboard for that kind of music ??
good luck,

John Smies
Holland

Kashif,
If you have not...you need to set the Master EQ to 'ON' and make adjustments for your room and speaker system..
SIMPLE...go to page 210 in your manual...here yiu find the instructions.

If you have not done this you have no idea how good the PA500 can sound.

Lee S.

if you send me your email address I will send you my Musical Resources for the PA-500, and also the 27 minutes DEMO that I made with them. Admittedly they are not oriental orientated but they do show the potential of your current keyboard and also should give you a better EQ sound......

regards,
John Smies
HOlland

Hi John,

Thanks for your EQ setting instructions and the nice demo file.

Kashif (from Canada)

Kashif,

was there any noticeable difference in the sound? Are things better? Does the need to upgrade still exists?

Kashif,

Thank you, have you actually also loaded my Musical Resources (BKP file )?

For all others, I just stumbled across these videos on youtube, with the Korg PA-500,
fabulous stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Pk1f418ww&feature=BF&list=UL&index=14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKPByclFwdM&feature=grec_index

and there are more of him,
Bet that are loads of musicians with a keyboard 5 times more expensive who cannot come up with anything near this..........

John Smies
Holland

John ,,that fella still plays like a keyboard player...Technique and voicing is an art to playing guitar on keys..Here is an example.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLajokq3nyc

Fran....I agree......this is a major problem I see many people do on an arranger KB....they play everything like a piano regardless of the instrument sound used. You gotta think like a person really playing that particular instrument & all its nuances. This is where playing an arranger gets very complex as your doing so many things at once, & your brain has to think about the sound your using every time you switch sounds and play that sound correctly.

Guitar emulation is an art in itself, for sure...how do you and the G-70 get along with it, Fran?

Ian

Ian..the same way you do...I fake it...but the G70 helps me to pull if off a little better...

I am just like 99% of us..I don't have the skill..

I have a friend that is an accomplished keyboardist, guitarist and drummer...What he can do with the keyboard to emulate a guitar or drums is unbelievable..The best I have ever heard or seen....He thinks like a guitarist.over laps his hands and picks the correct order of the voicing for strums and voicing of chords..the exact intervals of a guitar...

And he is just as good playing drums on keys...

BTW: he is no slouch on keys either...

Yep, I used to fake it, years ago...the advent of Yamaha's SA Guitars really helps with the realism, especially acoustic guitar.

Whatever works for you.

Ian

Fran,

It probably was my own fault as I introduced those two Youtube links but this thread was initially about Kashif's choice between the PSR910 and the PA-800, or retaining his PA-500
I did send him all my PA-500 software, he did say thank you but all I know is that he listened to my 27-minute Demo....
Which reminds, probably getting off topic again but two weeks ago I uploaded my PA software on Rapidshare for free,asking for feedback and possibly a free donation.
So far more than 250 musicians have uploaded my Musical Resources for PA (100 for PA-2X alone....) and so far I have had zero thanks and/or feedbacks and as to donations........guess!
If I did not know any better I would simply assume that my programming is crap, if not there must be something wrong in the way musicians and keyboard players in particular treat one another... I will add this part to the intial thread of my Musical Resources if anyone likes to comment, so please do not react HERE in this thread about my little frustration !

regards,
John Smies
Holland