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#298532 - 11/02/10 07:58 AM Re: T4-A4 Road trip
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
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Originally posted by SemiLiveMusic:
I'm a geetar player that plays arranger enough to get by, so, take it for what that's worth.

The Tyros guitars... I am still not impressed except for steel. The other guitars still sound to me like a toy. They don't sound like guitars to me, anyway. Sound like a cheap imitation. Steel is pretty good. I think some of the Audya guitars are amazing.

The Tyros drums are better on some styles but still cannot touch Audya. Also, the bass on the Audya is far superior... it's not as much the sound as it is the bass lines themselves, seems to me.

Tyros vocal harmony seems to be vastly improved.

Yamaha piano is always good. Although Audya has killer piano, too, maybe even better. Organ is important and I forgot to check those.

I have said this many times on this forum and I know it falls on deaf ears and that is fine, to each his own... but right hand voices don't mean too much to me. Generally, I favor arranger players only playing right hand sounds made by a keyboard... piano, organ, etc. I like some guitar sometimes but even that, I think is overused.

Overall, I think it's a really good arranger but nothing touches the Audya for a live band sound. Tyros is fine but Audya is sensational.

The Cubes did sound really good but so does the lowly Logitech system and it costs a fraction of what two of the Cubes cost.

One reason I bought the Audya is for recording. My understanding is that you can record up to 8 separate channels. And I still have not tried that! If it does that, that could be very helpful for a songwriter like me.

Tyros wins for cost, weight, size, third party styles and tech support.

Thanks Don Patterson for allowing us in!

And if anyone wants to know where the best Mexican restaurant is in the USA, we now know. I blew my diet but hey, if you're gonna blow it, really blow it!


Thanx Bill....Hmmmmmmmm? now there's a very different honest assessment of the Tyros 4......
for me all I got out of both reviews is that the VH2 Vocal Harmonizer is somewhat improved. My view still stands ....
I will wait until January NAMM 2011.

PS.. at least the Mexican Restaurant sounds REALLY GOOD!!



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#298533 - 11/02/10 08:34 AM Re: T4-A4 Road trip
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
Ian,
Well...to me this is guitar playing..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIuIIqbyEIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0jy1H5qTo

I would like to hear someone do this song on T4, with the guitars that are as close as possible...Or even T3.

Lee S.

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#298534 - 11/02/10 09:05 AM Re: T4-A4 Road trip
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by leeboy:
Ian,
Well...to me this is guitar playing..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIuIIqbyEIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0jy1H5qTo

I would like to hear someone do this song on T4, with the guitars that are as close as possible...Or even T3.

Lee S.

[This message has been edited by leeboy (edited 11-02-2010).]

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I'd like to hear it done on the Audya......Leeboy?

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#298535 - 11/02/10 09:31 AM Re: T4-A4 Road trip
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:
Still only a 1/4-inch mic input (WHY???!!!)


Don, Are you sure about that? I think the Tyros4's mic input is a 'combo jack' which accomodates either balanced XLR or 1/4" input.

Don & Bill, appreciated your balanced & well presented reviews on both the Audya & Tyros4.

Scott
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#298536 - 11/02/10 09:52 AM Re: T4-A4 Road trip
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:
Don, Are you sure about that? I think the Tyros4's mic input is a 'combo jack' which accomodates either balanced XLR or 1/4" input.

Don & Bill, appreciated your balanced & well presented reviews on both the Audya & Tyros4.

Scott



Scott it does accomdate XLR or 1/4 inch. I did read that in Don's post and forgot to comment on that.

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#298537 - 11/02/10 10:07 AM Re: T4-A4 Road trip
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:
Don, Are you sure about that? I think the Tyros4's mic input is a 'combo jack' which accomodates either balanced XLR or 1/4" input.

Don & Bill, appreciated your balanced & well presented reviews on both the Audya & Tyros4.

Scott




hahahahah yea the Ol' Boys eyes are starting to go he's gettin' old !!

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#298538 - 11/02/10 10:48 AM Re: T4-A4 Road trip
ChicoBrasil Offline
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Registered: 06/09/01
Posts: 993
Loc: Belo Horizonte,Minas Gerais,Br...
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Originally posted by leezone:
Chico

you have AUDYA?


One of my students has an Audya and a SD1 Plus as well.
I have played both and can say that to my repertoire, none of them impressed me.
The problems with audio loops and breaks are there.
Moreover, only Ketron programmers can do bossa nova styles so bad.
Some bossas may do Tom Jobim rise from the grave ... A sacrilege for an expensive kbd.
I have a little Gem GK 360 that values US$ 250 and may well teach Ketrons what is bossa nova.
My musical beach is bossa nova, samba, ballads and jazz.
Then the Ketrons are useless to me.
About Tyros4 I'm wondering if it is worth to spend triple of money to upgrade from my S910.
The big news of new Tyros voices are the scats that I already have them on my old Roland Alpha1 connected as slave( just for scat voices).

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#298539 - 11/02/10 11:22 AM Re: T4-A4 Road trip
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
I did overlook the dual mic input. That's a big step up for sure.
DonM
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#298540 - 11/02/10 11:34 AM Re: T4-A4 Road trip
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:
I did overlook the dual mic input. That's a big step up for sure.
DonM


More like a $1.96 (or probably less) "step up" for Yamaha.

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#298541 - 11/02/10 01:22 PM Re: T4-A4 Road trip
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
Posts: 3131
chico,

check your email

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