Please show me these specifications where you are reading them from Fran. I want a direct link or a screen shot.

Because I think you are mistaken or the specs you are looking at are wrong...

Nick

Now isn't that strange...the SA/SA2 voices on the Tyros are considered to be better than those on the Motif.

But, again, sound is subjective and personal.

That's why you play a Korg, and you've obviously made the right choice...for you.

Ian

Oops my bad. The arranger line indeed have AWM instead of AWM2.

Yea right the Tyros 3 sound better than the Motif. Dream on. No arranger in the world sound better then a synthesizer in that class. Same goes for Korg. The M3 sound better then a PA2x.

[This message has been edited by FransN (edited 10-31-2010).]

Now Frans...don't misquote...it's not nice, and poor Netiquette.

I said, "The SA/SA2 voices on the Tyros are considered to be better than those on the Motif."

Read carefully please, and stop day dreaming.

Ian

Day dreaming its night here

Hi Nick.

Yamaha compression is not the reason why the Tyros sounds as it does. It's the AWM engine and the Motif has the same issues. If compression was the root cause then the KORG Trinity which ran on 2:1 would not be known as one of the warmest and fattest sounding workstations KORG every built.

The exact same sample loaded into one keyboard can sound very different when loaded into another. The direct cause of all this can be the sound engine even when running at the most basic level.

As a KORG OASYS owner this is so freaking obvious to me that it's silly. Any KORG OASYS user will tell you the exact same thing. The HD-1 sound engine is so good that even KORG's EDS sound engine can sound muddy compared to HD-1.

So the problem is not the samples, and the fact that Yamaha have updated the samples to include better data does not directly hit the heart of the problem. The problem is that the sound system driving them is the same old technology it has always been.

Regards
James.

James fair enough but do you honestly think the Motif XS/XF sounds compressed?

Nope, it's not compression. What I'm missing when I hear the motif is warmth and a organic sound.

The motif sounds very processed and CD like to me. It seems to lack the ability to reproduce the recordings Yamaha made of the instruments they sampled in their natural an very intimate setting.

In short I want to fell like I'm listen to Yamaha's raw recordings of the sample session, not listening to a CD that was recorded later on.

I get that organic and real sound from my OASYS HD-1 engine.

Regards
James

come on guys stop messing up the thread and start a new one.