Can someone just plug an usb drive on it's new tyros 4, and copy the style folders?
then send them to me? I want to try them on my system.

Dan

I want to try them with vArranger.

This software can play Ketron styles, but also Yamaha tyros styles, including the yamaha new SFF GE format introduced with the Tyros 3 it's super guitars.

A special algorythm was created to allow the yamaha guitar / bass noises, megavoices, and drums to sound on the Ketron SD2 / Ketron SD4 sound module.

So you can here even the fret noises...

An audio DEMO will follow soon.

Dan


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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr

You can see here a picture of my latest gig with vArranger
http://www.varranger.fr/vforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=124.0;attach=32;image

I had to take train a go far to gig. The local sound man give me a Roland Juno keyboard, that I used only like a midi keyboard, and I took on my luggages a very cheap and lightweight 49 keys CME usb keyboard.

It was interresting that I was able to assign also the Roland buttons to control the sound change on vArranger.

I really enjoyed playing with 2 keyboards with just one midi module, and a computer, at this level of sound quality and the amazing arranger on a big 4000Watt speakers system !

I had a similiar feeling playing music like on My Ketron SD1. forgetting that it's was a software on a PC


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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr

mmm I am sorry, the image is here
http://www.varranger.fr/vforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=124.0;attach=31;image

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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr

check your mail

Thank you DNJ, but there is not all

Is there another Yamaha tyros 4 owner that can send me the T4 styles?



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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr

I wonder how well this program would run on my Lionstracs Mediastation. I've my own Virtual SD2 in software form that behaves exactly like the real SD2.

Is there a demo version available ?

The vArranger software is working only under windows. Sorry..

I personnaly own an old mediastation, and installed Windows 7 on it.

I also started to develop a driver for the MediaStation under windows.

There is no driver for the audio card.

If someone is interrested, i will put more efforts on it.

You can contact me in private to talk about technology



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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr

All the software on my Mediastation is for Windows and they all run fine under Linux with Wine.

From what I gather if it's anything like Live Styler, all I should have to do is route the midi out from your program to Linux Sampler and it should work.

I can boot my keyboard up as a virtual SD2.

If you had a demo version, it would be very interesting to explore this since Live Styler is going nowhere.

Regards
James

[This message has been edited by Irishacts (edited 10-16-2010).]

Your very welcome ....
BUT, I am NOT a Yamaha Tyros4 owner...
Instead I'm now sitting back and waiting for after the Winter NAMM Show in January to see what Yamaha, KORG & Roland releases in the way of TOTL/MOTL units......meanwhile my S910 is doing a marvelous job day after day......
I will however be Auditioning an Audya 5 midweek also can't wait....
In STEREO of Course



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-16-2010).]

vArranger uses some very specific windows features that are not yet ported under linux with WINE. We already tried it.

Whatever, I am interested to test your virtual sd2

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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr

Hi James,
what's a virtual SD2?
I gather it only runs on Media Stations.

Unfortunately my Non Virtual SD2 died on me during an update. Don't think I'll be replacing it.


best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Irishacts:
[B]

I can boot my keyboard up as a virtual SD2.

Hi Rikky,

why you don't send it to Ketron tech, so they wil replace the memory?

I did it already on my SD2

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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr

Its a software versions of the SD2.



Yes and no. It could be made to work under certain Windows software like Samplelord or NI Kontakt. I only need to modify the code on my LSCP GEN software to export the banks to different formats.



Ouch... not good.

Regards
James

Ok, that's a shame. Might be worth us having a chat about the virtual SD2 at some point.

James

[This message has been edited by Irishacts (edited 10-16-2010).]

James,
Why do you say Live-styler is going nowhere?
Thanks,
Lee S.

Hi James,
if a Virtual SD2 ever became available for Windows ( especially via Sample Lord) I'd be one of the first customers. haahaa
You put me onto Sample Lord for the
V Machine. Even though I didn't purhase it for the V Machine ( I sold it ) I did purhase SampleLord for my laptop.
It's been brilliant for my soundfonts & giga samples.

The SD2 Module was a bit dissapointing. Just over 2 years old. They weren't exactly cheap over here either. Cost me well over $600AUD at the time.

best wishes
Rikki



Yes and no. It could be made to work under certain Windows software like Samplelord or NI Kontakt. I only need to modify the code on my LSCP GEN software to export the banks to different formats.

I am personnaly trying to experiment the virtual way with vArranger.

I tried the Roland HyperCanvas VST sound module, and the sounds are very OK.

I also sampled some hardware drum kits, esspecially oriental percussions, and try to assign some channels of the styles to the virtual route.

From now, I can say that it's amazing.

I will post video explanations of that soon.

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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr

That's why I was hoping you had a demo version I could play around with. You have the program, and I have a Virtual SD2.

Between the two of us, I think there's an opportunity here that could be explored.

Regards
James

I meant purely from a Lionstracs partnership. They have fallen out and Norbert has pretty much just taken all Lionstracs Giga Libraries without permission and is planning on selling them included with Live Styler.

Live Styler will soon be fully virtual and that's where the trouble will start.

Regards
James

So Dan, this is starting to sound interesting. Ketron and Yamaha styles. What about 3 part layered right hand settings. What about Registraion Memory buttons, or preset buttons? Does varranger have this?

Hi Scott,

You can very easily select up to 5 sounds (layers) for right hand, and 3 sounds for the left hand (or second keyboard).

After you create your own USER MULTI SOUND, you just have to save it.

400 presets are offered out of the box for the Ketron SD2, that make it sounding a lot more good than before.

The registrations are here too !
You can save the right hand sound with the registration, as well as your 10 favorites sounds for that song, for direct access, as well as the JPG score of the song displayed on a second screen...

All is fully controllable by PC/MIDI

You can do everything you want.

Just look at the varranger forums, to see how things are going on, and how buyers are happy
http://www.varranger.fr/vforum/

Let me know if you need more informations

Dan

interesting yes.....practical for GIGGING IMO...... NO!

It depends...

Many musicians (Me too) are using it in Live condition.

as you can see here
http://www.varranger.fr/vforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=124.0;attach=31;image

or here
http://www.varranger.fr/Gallery.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUQH4WSQjgA
http://www.youtube.com/user/varranger#p/a/f/0/Nqt5bjswOVg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0amhVeE28pQ&feature=related
...

There is many controlling options.

Of course, a yamaha keyboard with a lot of buttons like your s990 is very good too.

The 2 systems have their own interest.

I personnaly use my Ketron SD1 on some gigs, and love to take my vArranger + SD2, on some other gigs.
Depend on the context...

Dan

Hi Guys,
that would be a brilliant partnership.

best wishes
Rikki

Hi Dan,
does v arranger load Audya midi based styles??


best wishes
Rikki

Dan good luck with the Varranger....but you would never do my type of gigs using something like that for so many navagational and sound reasons.....
but if it works for you and your happy ENJOY IT!!!

Hi Rikky,

Why do you need the audya styles?

I did'nt added the audya file support on the vArranger because the audya styles uses a lot of audio stuffs, to sound good. But I can add the Audya style format in a next version. I already know most of things about this format.

Tell me your reason.

Dnj, my gigs are using a lot of sound and style change too, but I organised my new controller to be able to gig with vArranger.

But I can understand your feeling.

Maybe I will create a special hardware to make things easier

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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr

Dan for me and many other live players NAVAGATION and SPLIT SECOND CHANGES on stage are imperative....going from one song to another with 1 or 2 seconds in between songs is essential to keep the energy going on the dance floor.....that is what I look for in a KB...and in a PC based arranger, vst, or whatever program also.......in a studio setting there's no rush when recording, editing, etc, but on live stage it's another story... I wish you good luck.

Hi Dan,
there's actually an Audya Style editor of sorts.
ie midifile to style.

Something earlier Ketrons lacked ie a style editor.

Better still, if you wrote an editor of your own. haahaa


best wishes
Rikki





[This message has been edited by rikkisbears (edited 10-18-2010).]

Dnj,

I know the imperatives on stage. I personnaly gig a lot with dancefloor full of people at BPM 170... I know what it is, trust me

When I created vArranger, I had this in my mind, and I always continue to improve the live oriented experiences.

When I do a gig, and I had something who bothered me or stressed me a little bit, I change it. Also when the other users tell me about something who can help the work flow, I always take it.

For now, switching from one registration to another one is faster in my computer than on my Ketron SD1. When the measure is ended, the new registration starts immediately.

Whatever, not everyone have the need of an arranger software who can take with him in his laptop. I accept your arguments

Rikky :

Now that vArranger can play the Yamaha styles, you have to know that Yamaha styles are basicly MIDIFILES format 0 + another section for the arranger settings, who can be easily edited on the computer. There is a lot of tools avaible on the web.

You don't have to convert your midifile to style. Just load it on you DAW and edit it directely.

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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr

James

If you had a virtual Tyros 4, I'd be very interested

Dan

Speaking of creating some special hardware to make things easier, yes! Maybe a very lightweight keyboard, with the Registration Memory/Presets in the middle, like Yamaha has failed to do recently Or I suppose a contol pad of sorts would work also.

I personnaly use a laptop with a touch screen
(HP TM2)
It is good because you have direct access to all the functions by a finger click.
But in Live situation, there is some buttons, like fill ins, variations, start stop, call next registration... that you prefer to press on something real.

On my MIDI keyboard, I have buttons (pads) that I have assignated to my important live functions.

I also bought an apple wireless bluetooth keyboard, and put some stickers on the keys.

This is also good to control vArranger.
http://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/stuff/n800/keyboard/keyboard.jpg

Many options exists...Every one, his prefered way



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Dan
http://www.varranger.fr