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#289954 - 07/07/10 06:34 PM Re: How to convert?
zuki Senior Member Registered: 09/20/02 Posts: 4716	Bill, This is exactly what I'd like to do. I have these Sweet Georgia Brown CD+G that are awesome. How in the world do I convert these off the CD to a midi file? Your help would be greatly appreciated. I don't care about the lyrics - I memorize everything anyway. _________________________ Live: Korg PA4X/Zed 6FX/EV Everse 8s/Senn 935/K&M stand Studio: Korg PA4X/Yamaha DGX670/Yamaha PSR SX900/Boss BR900CD/Tascam DP24SD/MTM Iloud/Senn 935/K&M stand/Shure SM57/Sony C80 (2)/Blue Encore 300
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#289955 - 07/07/10 06:41 PM Re: How to convert?
Fran Carango Senior Member Registered: 05/26/99 Posts: 9673 Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA	Quote: Originally posted by zuki: Thxs guys, but what I'm after (after research) is a midi file. This is the only file I can take from my song mode to the sequencer mode in order to make track changes. An mp3 will not allow this in the 800. Midi files just don't have the quality and backup vocals as mp3 or cd+g Zuki, I keep pushing his $80 program..It will take your CD-g(Wave) or any MP3...You can remove areas or add even via midi data..change the key or tempo and resave(mixdown) in the MP3 format that your PA800 with MP3 card can read... Here is the link for a free 14 day trial..You guys are resisting a great software..with soft synths worth 10 times the price of the software.. www.acoustica.com MixCraft5 _________________________ www.francarango.com
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#289956 - 07/07/10 07:28 PM Re: How to convert?
miden Senior Member Registered: 01/31/06 Posts: 3354 Loc: The World	When will you guys understand there is NO program that will convert all the parts of an audio file to midi. PERIOD Forget about " centre cancelling " software too, as most recordings these days either have the centre channel (mostly vocals) doubled and panned left or right, and/or effects which are nearly always panned left and right, so even if the centre is removed you STILL get the main vocal.... You CAN get good results with a recording of a single instrument or solo vocal.. But if you want some program to magically analyse an audio file with several instruments and vocals and then say "ooh thats a guitar track, or thats a bass track, oh and thats a cowbell sound, and then theres a snare drum flam, etc etc, and then give an accurate note for note MIDI conversion, well, it just ain't gonna happen.... Sorry to be so blunt, but sheesh, even a Cray Super Computer would not be able to do this... There is SO much frequency bleed between so many instruments, what you will end up with is a jumble of midi data which will take a month to sort out....Much quicker to just record it yourself!! Dennis
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#289957 - 07/07/10 09:16 PM Re: How to convert?
Dnj Senior Member Registered: 09/21/00 Posts: 43703	Quote: Originally posted by Fran Carango: Zuki, I keep pushing his $80 program..It will take your CD-g(Wave) or any MP3...You can remove areas or add even via midi data..change the key or tempo and resave(mixdown) in the MP3 format that your PA800 with MP3 card can read... Here is the link for a free 14 day trial..You guys are resisting a great software..with soft synths worth 10 times the price of the software.. www.acoustica.com MixCraft5 Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
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#289958 - 07/07/10 10:25 PM Re: How to convert?
miden Senior Member Registered: 01/31/06 Posts: 3354 Loc: The World	No Donny, no need to shuushhhh I have examined that program, and its okay, but not worthy of the praise heaped upon it in my view... And it STILL will not strip out each individual note from a complex multi instrument/vocal audio file and give you a coherent corresponding MIDI file...
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#289959 - 07/08/10 02:47 AM Re: How to convert?
abacus Senior Member Registered: 07/21/05 Posts: 5347 Loc: English Riviera, UK	Hi Zuki I have no use for this type of software; however the write ups in a lot of the Pro forums and magazines rate it highly for what it does. As with all conversion software there will always is editing required to get the final product as you wish? The best thing to do is download the demo and see if it does what you want. NOTE: While note and sound separation is easy for the brain to do, you�re talking at least 10 � 15 years before a computer will be able to reach this level, and even then will probably be in the Cray Super Computer price league. (Add another 10 � 15 years for personal use) Hope this helps, as I don�t know of any other software that gets comments as good as Melodyne Bill _________________________ English Riviera: Live entertainment, Real Ale, Great Scenery, Great Beaches, why would anyone want to live anywhere else (I�m definitely staying put).
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#289960 - 07/08/10 03:11 AM Re: How to convert?
Fran Carango Senior Member Registered: 05/26/99 Posts: 9673 Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA	Quote: Originally posted by miden: No Donny, no need to shuushhhh I have examined that program, and its okay, but not worthy of the praise heaped upon it in my view... And it STILL will not strip out each individual note from a complex multi instrument/vocal audio file and give you a coherent corresponding MIDI file... Dennis, are you sure we are talking about the same software...First..the software will not convert audio to midi data..and I did not mention that.. What it does it does well and is a "Swiss knife " software... Secondly..you mentioned in another thread (maybe it was someone else) how impressed you were with VST's you found and purchased...also the organ software you planned on getting too...well the assorted VST's that are shipped with MixCraft5 include Lounge Lizard, Messiah (a Great Prophet 5 synth) and the exact organ software that was mentioned...In all there are more than a half dozen quality VST's..The MixCraft5 software also serves as a host..and you can use an unlimited number of different VST's in combination....even running Windows.. I am telling you this because I wouldn't want anyone discouraged from trying the trial time to examine this great value software....I think they could be mislead by your comments....It will not convert audio (Wave, CD-g, MP3 etc) to midi data...and you are correct that has never worked with any software...also the center cancellation is as you said ..a hit and miss at best....but don't confuse these features..with MixCraft5...they are not even part of the program... _________________________ www.francarango.com
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#289961 - 07/08/10 09:59 AM Re: How to convert?
GlennT Senior Member Registered: 12/01/02 Posts: 1790 Loc: Medina, OH, USA	Fran... is it worth upgrading to MixCraft5 from Mixcraft4 if you have no need for video? Thanks, Glenn
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#289962 - 07/08/10 10:47 AM Re: How to convert?
Fran Carango Senior Member Registered: 05/26/99 Posts: 9673 Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA	Quote: Originally posted by GlennT: Fran... is it worth upgrading to MixCraft5 from Mixcraft4 if you have no need for video? Thanks, Glenn Glenn...in a heart beat..$20 upgrade from MixCraft4 to MixCraft5...So many new features besides the video track..and they give you several more soft synths..A no brainer.. _________________________ www.francarango.com
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#289963 - 07/08/10 01:10 PM Re: How to convert?
miden Senior Member Registered: 01/31/06 Posts: 3354 Loc: The World	Quote: Originally posted by Fran Carango: Dennis, are you sure we are talking about the same software...First..the software will not convert audio to midi data..and I did not mention that.. What it does it does well and is a "Swiss knife " software... Secondly..you mentioned in another thread (maybe it was someone else) how impressed you were with VST's you found and purchased...also the organ software you planned on getting too...well the assorted VST's that are shipped with MixCraft5 include Lounge Lizard, Messiah (a Great Prophet 5 synth) and the exact organ software that was mentioned...In all there are more than a half dozen quality VST's..The MixCraft5 software also serves as a host..and you can use an unlimited number of different VST's in combination....even running Windows.. I am telling you this because I wouldn't want anyone discouraged from trying the trial time to examine this great value software....I think they could be mislead by your comments....It will not convert audio (Wave, CD-g, MP3 etc) to midi data...and you are correct that has never worked with any software...also the center cancellation is as you said ..a hit and miss at best....but don't confuse these features..with MixCraft5...they are not even part of the program...[/B] Yes Fran I agree , BUT the OP was about converting CD-G to MIDI, and NOTHING at all to do with the Mixcraft.. I was re-enforcing the fact that this program does not do it. I appreciate you promoting something you like, however you SHOULD have stated quite clearly, that it did not do what the OP was originally asking for..This you did not so I was merely pointing that fact out This is another example of where a thread goes awry, as it has now turned into a discussion re the pros and cons of mixer software and NOT about software to convert audio files to midi files... Dennis [This message has been edited by miden (edited 07-08-2010).]
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