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#287898 - 05/26/10 11:14 PM Re: Modulations...
eddiefromrotherham Offline
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Thanks for that John,
not sure that it matters whether german musicians write H or B...don't know of any modern german composers ...they only write waltzes and oompahs anyway..(waits for flack!)
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#287899 - 05/27/10 09:46 PM Re: Modulations...
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
You must not have heard death metal polka music yet, then, Eddie...

Anyway, you can't write a fugue on the name Bach without an 'H' in the scale, can you..?
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#287900 - 05/28/10 08:04 AM Re: Modulations...
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Used to modulate all the time, but as I got older...Seriously, folks, as Rory said, there are all kinds of methods to transition between keys, but, when I'm playing on the fly, the easiest "turn-around" that always works and puts you 1/2 step higher is, say, when you're in F, use C# sharp as a passing chord, then back to F#. With the proper drum "sweetening"... either a live drummer or the right drum break on an arranger, it breaks the boredom, is borderline dramatic if "sold" but is not too intrusive for, say dinner jobs.

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#287901 - 05/28/10 08:23 AM Re: Modulations...
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Registered: 02/04/01
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Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
For "Unforgettable" after ending on the "C" chord, I would play Am7 to D7 to resolve back to the "GM7".

Hey, Bruno123 this works much better:
2-End with a C chord then play Bm7 E7-5 Am7 D7-5 back to "GM7"
Even without the b5th's it sounds much better.

When I get a chance, I will practice the turn-around using the b 5th’s. I use them quite a bit on many other tunes. Discussions like this one are what I like about the forum. Sharing knowledge. I love chord theory.

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This should rumple some feathers. Where is Uncle Dave? Get in on this Dave I sure miss our old squabbles!
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#287902 - 05/28/10 08:25 AM Re: Modulations...
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Dayton, OH USA
A slight twist to my original question:

Do you ever transpose from a major to a minor key or vice/versa?

I can't think of a single example of when I'd do that.

I imagine its more suited to a long-form jazz or classical piece, more so than a pop or country tune.

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#287903 - 05/28/10 10:08 AM Re: Modulations...
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Bill in Dayton:
A slight twist to my original question:

Do you ever transpose from a major to a minor key or vice/versa?

I can't think of a single example of when I'd do that.

I imagine its more suited to a long-form jazz or classical piece, more so than a pop or country tune.



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#287904 - 05/28/10 10:17 AM Re: Modulations...
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
"Every time we say goodbye" ------------'but how strange, the change, from major to minor'.

Fleeting, but still, an example.

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#287905 - 05/28/10 10:18 AM Re: Modulations...
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Dayton, OH USA
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
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I'd thought of that, but its written into the actual score. I was trying to think of another tune that I'd do that manually to...

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#287906 - 05/28/10 10:23 AM Re: Modulations...
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Arthur's Theme (The Best That You Can Do), written by Christopher Cross, Burt Bacharach, and Carole Bayer Sager. A fourth writing credit goes to Australian songwriter Peter Allen, goes from a minor to major...beautiful song as well.

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#287907 - 05/28/10 02:33 PM Re: Modulations...
captain Russ Offline
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Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
Sorry, Bill. Just read your initial post, and I mentioned the same simple turn-around as you.

Russ (pay attention, dummy) Lay

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