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#287579 - 05/16/10 07:27 AM Audya... Timestretched or Sliced?
leezone Offline
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Hi. Just a quick question...

I play a few styles where I will have an increase in tempo change of up to 50% within same song

2 questions:
are the drum loops sliced. So we can increase or decrease without any crazy timestretching?

Are the guitar audio loops sliced to pieces or
are 1 file which needs to be timestretched with tempo change?

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#287580 - 05/16/10 10:46 AM Re: Audya... Timestretched or Sliced?
Dnj Offline
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http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/021221.html

Lee are you concerned about these Audya problems posted before you purchase? For that kind of money I would be very cautious until Ketron gets all this resolved.
This is really in excusable and unacceptable.

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#287581 - 05/16/10 12:34 PM Re: Audya... Timestretched or Sliced?
leezone Offline
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the AUDYA4 & AUDYA5 are problem free now...
i guess because they are yet to be released :-)

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#287582 - 05/16/10 12:52 PM Re: Audya... Timestretched or Sliced?
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
the AUDYA4 & AUDYA5 are problem free now...
i guess because they are yet to be released :-)


Seriously I would wait and see if these problems are corrected and stabilized even if it means a year or two.

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#287583 - 05/17/10 05:40 AM Re: Audya... Timestretched or Sliced?
leezone Offline
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Anyone have answers to these simple questions?

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#287584 - 05/17/10 05:54 AM Re: Audya... Timestretched or Sliced?
Dnj Offline
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I really wanted to LOVE the Audya and was seriously thinking of getting one, but with an unstable Operating system and reading some of these problems I will not take a chance on stage with one. This is totally unacceptable and should have not been allowed to market without the proper intensive beta testing. At $5000.00 each they better get their act together very soon.

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#287585 - 05/17/10 08:36 AM Re: Audya... Timestretched or Sliced?
Nedim Offline
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Lee, i think the answer to your question is that to you it shouldnt matter if they are
stretched or sliced (which i think is sliced) but how they work or if they work.
In my knowledge that doesnt make ANY difference at all. If you change Tempo to
a crazy difference it would sound crazy no matter how they are done, both Drums
and Instruments loops...and i dont really see it as a decisive question about Audya,
its more of a Waste of Time question...or stretching it. I think you should know by now
what happens to an Audio file when Tempo is changed drastically, no matter how
that loops is done, by Slicing or TS or BS...lol
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#287586 - 05/17/10 09:17 AM Re: Audya... Timestretched or Sliced?
leezone Offline
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Nedim,

there's a BIG difference if it's sliced, (not pizza)

if it's sliced, severe tempo change won't alter the overall sound.

if one continous file, severe tempo change WILL severely "degrade" the overall sound.

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#287587 - 05/17/10 10:31 AM Re: Audya... Timestretched or Sliced?
Nedim Offline
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I think it might be the opposite but i still stand for a big Tempo change it will degrade.
And i dont know why would one care about it at all since i find no use of changing from 140 to 75.
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#287588 - 05/17/10 10:55 AM Re: Audya... Timestretched or Sliced?
leezone Offline
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theres a certain style i play where i will increase from 170 to 240 within same song

about a 40% increase,

so this is why i ask if audio is sliced or 1 continous file

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