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#283591 - 03/19/10 06:50 PM Audya 4os
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Hey guys I was talking to ketron uk today and guess what it's not going to be available until after the show in germany at least
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#283592 - 03/19/10 08:13 PM Re: Audya 4os
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Right, and you REALLY think a dealer is going to "spill the beans" before the show??

That is IF they have any beans to spill.

From what I have seen and read its my view that Ketron ARE playing this one close to the chest, so I would doubt whether anyone, apart from the programmers and execs at Ketron know.

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#283593 - 03/19/10 10:27 PM Re: Audya 4os
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Its not going to be available untill its done and works flawlesly....

Why can't people accept the fact that that might require more time then expected.
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#283594 - 03/19/10 11:42 PM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Bachus:
Its not going to be available untill its done and works flawlesly....

Why can't people accept the fact that that might require more time then expected.


Cheers
I agree with you Bachus entirely, OS4 must be flawless this time, there is to be major changes in the way Ketron behave and treat their customers, customers now come first before turnover and cost of final item, I have heard that the Audya will be reduced in price to reflect its position in the market with other KB in the same league. Don’t you just instinctively know when someone is talking Tosh? So Bachus I’ll stop talking tosh when you do, Ketron would never be able to guarantee to anyone that OS4 is flawless, Frank is putting OS4 through its paces as I type and he is dumbstruck, it must be like taking a Toyota for a test drive only to discover it has no brakes. How much more time Bachus do they need it’s been 6 months , Lionstracs turn updates around in days, Ketron are running out of time and I think AJ's clock spring has gone and Leezone's is a Mickey Mouse one, Ketron don't have one or its atomic. BOOM!


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#283595 - 03/19/10 11:53 PM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Brian3331:
Hey guys I was talking to ketron uk today and guess what it's not going to be available until after the show in germany at least


Shock, Horror, Dismay, Awful, Stunned, Astounded, Bewildered, Astounded, Staggered. No Brian just the Ketron we have come to know and luuuuuuuuuuuuuve!
Have you seen James on the MS!

Cheers Brian
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#283596 - 03/20/10 12:13 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Quote:
Originally posted by Brian3331:
..it's not going to be available until after the show in germany at least


No surprise at all, next will be NAMM. That way they keep Tony and Lezone busy
in the "who post most" competition here at SZ.

Ketron will show Audya again at Musik Messe, and if it don't have OS4 installed,
what new will there be to show unless new models / modules or whatever shows up?
Audya is a veteran at that Musik Messe, I would not be amazed if they just take
off the dustcover of the one who has been standing there all the time since it
arrived the very first time.
But I think Ketron won't put out OS4 to the public before they're pretty sure
things work well, and that's a wise decision.

We'll see in just a few days now .........

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GJ

Btw, at the moment I'm more curious about what conjuring tricks and surprises James
are going show us with the MediaStation.
Looks like that machine are placed in a home it should have been long time ago.
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#283597 - 03/20/10 12:22 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:


Btw, at the moment I'm more curious about what conjuring tricks and surprises James
are going show us with the MediaStation.
Looks like that machine are placed in a home it should have been long time ago.


Jonny

I totally agree with you on this one I think we need to watch this space now with James and the MS, if OS4 doesn’t swing into action Audya will be a speck on the horizon like Leezone and me!

Good I hear!
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#283598 - 03/20/10 02:12 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Quote:
Originally posted by Brian3331:
Hey guys I was talking to ketron uk today and guess what it's not going to be available until after the show in germany at least


Hi Brian3331, Miden is right, the only people that know the schedule for release with any certainty are Ketron Italy.


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#283599 - 03/20/10 02:19 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
Hi Brian3331, The only people that know the schedule for release with any certainty are Ketron Italy.

Although it is possible it may not be untill after the show, we will have to wait and see.



Brian,

You hearing noises and voices in your head, Ullienn Pipes, the end is near for you my son, speak to Mr.M.S.James! It might be tinnitus. Even TWD doesn't know, now there is a surprise, the uplink must be down!

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#283600 - 03/20/10 02:27 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
Hi Brian3331, Miden is right, the only people that know the schedule for release with any certainty are Ketron Italy.


[This message has been edited by Tonewheeldude (edited 03-20-2010).]


TWD,

Even that sounds a bit iffy "with any certainty are Ketron Italy". are you certain about that?
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#283601 - 03/20/10 04:56 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Officially i can say on record without any ambiguity that I am categorically and unequivocally 100% certain that version 4 will definitely be released before, during or some time after Frankfurt Musik Messe. You can be absolutely confident of this.

Seriously though. When Ketron Italy have everything ready and compiled they will let us all know. Speculation leads only to frustration.

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#283602 - 03/20/10 05:16 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
Officially i can say on record without any ambiguity that I am categorically and unequivocally 100% certain that version 4 will definitely be released before, during or some time after Frankfurt Musik Messe. You can be absolutely confident of this.

Seriously though. When Ketron Italy have everything ready and compiled they will let us all know. Speculation leads only to frustration.



I allready knew all of that TWD, but are you certain it will be any good and just yes or no will do!
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#283603 - 03/20/10 05:16 AM Re: Audya 4os
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I was told give it a week i cant wait
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#283604 - 03/20/10 05:34 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Brian3331:
I was told give it a week i cant wait


Brian,

Just get use to the lies, it's like the free beer in our pub, tomorrow, you will get told next week every week.You are worse than me, settle down, or go and see James it's only a bus ride for you, I would be there every day playing with the MS.
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#283605 - 03/20/10 09:37 AM Re: Audya 4os
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and the countdown is at 4... Just in case you missed it on the other thread

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#283606 - 03/20/10 11:18 AM Re: Audya 4os
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no lies...just speculation.

And Yes to your question Tony.

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#283607 - 03/20/10 12:36 PM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
no lies...just speculation.

And Yes to your question Tony.


No TWD lies, if you want I will post the three emails I have from the factory over the past 6 weeks saying OS4 will be out in a few days time, don't tempt me, just get real and stop defending them, this will all end in tears believe me.
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#283608 - 03/20/10 12:42 PM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
this will all end in tears believe me.


I don't mind you posting the emails. I promise not to shed tears

I do know Italy expected it to be ready before now, but they keep adding new things.

By the way..are you planning to come along to any of the Roadshow events Tony it would be nice to say hi?

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#283609 - 03/21/10 10:37 PM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:

I do know Italy expected it to be ready before now, but they keep adding new things.




TWD,

This is the bit that worries me, you say they keep adding things makes a statement to me "NO FORWARD PLANNING" then panic testing just in case there are bugs at the last minute after adding things. If I write software and start adding things to the end it won't get tested, it will fall over in the field and I will end up debugging it, it needs to be soaked. You need to stop software development some time before you release it, sounds like Ketron are doing it on the fly, just as it goes through the door. The KBs that are coming out of Ketron now what version of software have they got. The last KB I got, this is my 3rd Audya it had OS2 loaded when OS3 had been out for some time. This mean you are not openning the boxes and updating them before they go out and letting the customer make the upgrade when he gets it. It can't be old stock surley or slow stock rotation.
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#283610 - 03/22/10 03:02 AM Re: Audya 4os
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UK Audya's always go out with the latest version installed. Stock is turned over far too quickly to have an older version on the shelf. However if OS4 were released 'today' Audya's would be opened and updated prior to shipping. (I am not indicating it is coming out today by the way)

Apologies...it was incorrect and misleading of me to say Ketron keep adding things as though they are just making up new software componants in the last few days of release. There were some items still to be included recently but these were not related to the operation of the software. Also once everything is completed the manual had to be written and translated into the various languages; All things that take time... and as you know last minute items rarely take 'minutes'.

I am digging a hole for myself here so thats all I will say on the subject

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#283611 - 03/22/10 05:52 AM Re: Audya 4os
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And the countdown is at 2

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#283612 - 03/22/10 07:07 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Frank,

you enjoying 4.0? if that's ok to answer


yes or no will suffice :-)

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#283613 - 03/22/10 07:36 AM Re: Audya 4os
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It's good, I don't have a manual or cheat sheet, so I have to "find" the new stuff.

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#283614 - 03/22/10 07:42 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by frankieve:
It's good, I don't have a manual or cheat sheet, so I have to "find" the new stuff.



Frank,

They are still working on de' manuel, thats Spanish. And Leezone is fishing

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#283615 - 03/22/10 09:40 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
Frank,

They are still working on de' manuel, thats Spanish. And Leezone is fishing

[This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 03-22-2010).]


I already finished editing the english version 4 manual a few days back now.

TWD

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#283616 - 03/22/10 09:43 AM Re: Audya 4os
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How about sending it to me?
DonM
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#283617 - 03/22/10 10:03 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
I already finished editing the english version 4 manual a few days back now.


I suppose manual as well as OS4 will be downloadable at Ketron's site sooner or later?

GJ
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#283618 - 03/22/10 10:43 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
I already finished editing the english version 4 manual a few days back now.

TWD

[This message has been edited by Tonewheeldude (edited 03-22-2010).]


If it all goes wrong in English TWD, it's all down to you.
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#283619 - 03/22/10 10:44 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by DonM:
How about sending it to me?
DonM


You've no chance Don.
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#283620 - 03/22/10 10:49 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:
I suppose manual as well as OS4 will be downloadable at Ketron's site sooner or later?

GJ

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#283621 - 03/27/10 12:37 PM Re: Audya 4os
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Hi all,

Have you seen this, OS4 is so big it comes in and box set of DVDs with "The Godfather".Doh!
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum22/HTML/001382.html

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#283622 - 03/29/10 04:45 AM Re: Audya 4os
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just off the phone to the ketron guy in ireland he was at the show and he was told about 4 so not just after the show like durmremix told us and audya 5 has a lot more in it will cost around €4,200 audya 4 about €3,700
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#283623 - 03/29/10 05:00 AM Re: Audya 4os
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€3,700 for a Module ?


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#283624 - 03/29/10 06:34 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Frank,

when do you think you'll get the Audya4 & 5 in stock?

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#283625 - 03/29/10 05:07 PM Re: Audya 4os
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a couple of months atleast
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#283626 - 03/29/10 06:38 PM Re: Audya 4os
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damn,

that long away? bummer

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#283627 - 03/31/10 06:45 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Frank,

let us know when you get the new AUDYA's 4&5 in stock

thanks,

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#283628 - 03/31/10 08:34 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Remember how long it took from Audya first show at Frankfurt 'till it
was to find in the music shops?
Years!
NAMM next Lee, if not, try next year at Frankfurt.......
That's the Ketron way.

Happy Easter.
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#283629 - 03/31/10 08:46 AM Re: Audya 4os
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Quote:
Originally posted by Brian3331:
just off the phone to the ketron guy in ireland he was at the show and he was told about 4 so not just after the show like durmremix told us and audya 5 has a lot more in it will cost around €4,200 audya 4 about €3,700


Did you expect anything else?

And there seem to be enough people espescially in GErmany willing to pay for this.

Its a little over the top, but for me it indicates how expensive it is nowerdays to develope software....
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