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#282631 - 03/10/10 10:43 AM Re: Ketron Audya My Slant
Nedim Offline
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Originally posted by Diki:
[B]I think Ketron could only DREAM of being unable to keep production up with demand...


Ahahahahahahaha....
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#282632 - 03/10/10 10:56 AM Re: Ketron Audya My Slant
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This is sad and funny, everyone is talking about the US market but you guys fail to know
and understand is that NOONE CARES ABOUT THE US, US is probably one of the
smallest consumers, in any market, not arrangers...we are 300 million people compared
to another 6 billion against...you really think Ketron or Korg would care? I know for a fact
that the US is also Korg Arrangers SMALLEST consumer too. And then we complain why
not this for USA why not that, they simply dont care...why dont i make styles for Audya?
I simply dont care, only 2 people have it, whos gonna buy from me? Same thing.
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#282633 - 03/10/10 12:36 PM Re: Ketron Audya My Slant
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Nedim, when i buy, it will be 3

enough for you to make some styles? :-)

the pizza is getting cold?

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#282634 - 03/10/10 04:58 PM Re: Ketron Audya My Slant
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Slice of Pizza per Style?
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#282635 - 03/10/10 11:08 PM Re: Ketron Audya My Slant
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Maybe you are just self-justifying your own and the Italian arranger manufacturer's decisions, Nedim. You can't blame us for being a small slice of the arranger market when no-one makes product specifically for US. And you can't blame us for not buying your styles, when those that attempt American music miss the mark so badly...

If a product was aimed squarely at what American musicians WANT, they will buy it (ask me how many WS's are bought over here every year... go on, I dare you!), but when you keep churning out schlager machines and styles that would KILL any party of Yanks, you are SURPRISED we don't want them?

The economy of the United States is the largest national economy in the world. Its' nominal gross domestic product (GDP) was estimated at $14.2 trillion in 2009, which is about three times that of the world's second largest national economy, Japan. Its' GDP by PPP is almost twice that of the second largest, China.

And you don't want a piece of THAT?!

If you can't make a product we want, don't blame US...!
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#282636 - 03/11/10 06:05 AM Re: Ketron Audya My Slant
Tonewheeldude Offline
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So you say the arrangers are not made for the USA market. I was wondering. If you could have anything you wanted on an arranger for the USA, what would you do differently? Is it the styles that make them wrong? Or the sounds? Or something else..are your fingers different sized to europeans for instance? hehe

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#282637 - 03/11/10 09:23 AM Re: Ketron Audya My Slant
Nedim Offline
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Lol Diki...Diki, i understand your point and you are completely right but i had a different
point, what i am trying to say is that companies and devellopers go where the market is.
US Economy has nothing to do with consuming a product, the economy might be the
strongest but not enough people to buy, not anyone in the US is a musician and needs
an arranger and also not anyone is a construction worker to buy a buldozer...
if you understand my point.
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#282638 - 03/11/10 10:02 AM Re: Ketron Audya My Slant
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I think it's a little deeper than there's not an arranger for the US market.

The US market is not like the rest of the world, the us market is not waiting for the perfect arranger, they are just not buying arrangers like the rest of the world.

We are now the number 1 DJ market, next probably guitars, then synths.

we generally have a couple of bars every couple of miles, some with full band stages, some with just enough room for a couple of musicians.

The rest of the world has cafes every other building, and in each is usually someone on a arranger entertaining.

So I agree with the face there is no "US" arranger, but I don't think that will fix the sales issue.

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#282639 - 03/11/10 02:38 PM Re: Ketron Audya My Slant
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Loc: NW Florida
They'll never know until someone makes a product... the market doesn't exist UNTIL you make the product.

AFTER that, you can say based on results and sales, but in all fairness, who makes one? I'm not talking about an arranger biased towards existing US arranger users. You all know how small that market is... I'm talking about something that aims at whatever keyboard players there are, mostly buying WS's and synths at the moment in the US, and leverages the ease of use that arrangers have in spades over their WS brethren.

If anyone has any doubts about how well it COULD work, think about the DJX for a minute. To be honest, the sales on that thing scared the pants off of Yamaha! They killed it ASAP because it was scavenging WS sales! First manufacturer that jumps on THAT bandwagon again is going to find out just how big the US market is...
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#282640 - 03/12/10 12:33 AM Re: Ketron Audya My Slant
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But I still don't get what it is you think the USA would need that is different from the rest of the world?

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