http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xjSHbWTyBE

Trying to think what tune it reminds me of, any ideas

Bill

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This is not exactly good dance music..

Where is the cutting solo sounds the sweet backings, the fat bass, and the awesome drums ?

Leigh obviously has no clue about dance Music and what exactly makes people wanna dance and go all out on that kind of music. Tough very good playing skills this was very bad dance music.

I think the dance quallitty of this performance says more about Leigh then about the Wersi. Its like ACDC playing Schubert.

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lol... No idea at all but I can tell you that they played this type of music for 2 hours at the Circus I was at with my kids last Friday.

I'm not dissing the artist, I actually really like the tune and I think he can play very well. All I'm saying is it sounds exactly like the music played at the Circus.

It's the awkwardness of it all that just make it sound that way. The Styles used VS the sound, VS the melody. None of it really fits into the "Dance" box. Just sounds like Circus music to me.

Regards
James

Do you remember all those excruciating records of the sixties where the James Last Orchestra, or Strings Unlimited would cover the top hits of the year? It was like the rhythm sections had only listened to pop music for the five minutes it took to rehearse the song, they hadn't got a clue about the style they were playing.

Same here. IMO, the primary mistake he makes is the home organists' Achilles Heel... too much bloody reverb! Here's a heads up - the sixties are OVER Drenching everything in a wash of plate reverb is SO over. And if this guy had ever LISTENED to dance music, he might realize this. Plus, that cheesy string synth sound... please

This isn't dance music. This is James Last plays dance music!

Now this is Dance music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJHKlVNN3nA
On a Korg of course.

Check out Sister Bliss playing the KORG Trinity live and one of the biggest Dance songs of all time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1sxd3Z9lvc

Now that's what I call HYPER cool. Used to play this tune live myself back in my younger wild days. The crowd always went mental.

James

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Not sure but I would say one of his influences was Madonna's, Papa Don't Preach.

-mike

After watching the crowd response to this song (performance?), I'm guessing this crowd was already 'mental' before they arrived. I tried to evaluate this performance with an open mind (difficult, I know) as I do with a lot of ROCK performances that seem musically shallow to me but still seem to ignite (mostly young, middle class) audiences into some kind of mass hysteria.
Ok, I know it's an age/cultural thing (mostly age), but what I see is:
1. A solid, perhaps better-than-average ROCK drummer
2. A pretty blond playing repetitive riffs (with the proper hypnotic effect)
3. A weird-looking 'front man' for maximum visual effect (in this case, a Zombie, imported directly from Haiti )

That combination, or some small variation of it, seems to be the key to success for a lot of rock bands (making lots of money and getting lots of chicks ) and musical content be damned.

I'm not knocking it, just jealous . Sure wish I'd been smart enough (apparently my lack of talent would not have been a handicap) to have tapped into this pot-of-gold. I look at least as good as that front man .

chas

Chas, when have you been to a hardcore DJ performance?

You really need to experience this dance phenomenum in first person to understnad wht this hype and hypnotic does to ones brain..

Its all about harmony, it goes back to or ancient roots of wardrums in ancient africa... there is a reason they call it trance...

I don't care for dance music much at my home or in my car, but when i go out its an awesome thing to visit these dance festivals overhere in Holland... Tiesto and other dutch top deejays really know how to get people intoo trajnce for sure, and its way more fun then dancing Foxtrot or walse, its an emotional thing...


Sometimes music needs to be simple to succeed, its another version of the 3 chords rule... simplicity rules...

LOL! Right on, Diki. Go into any Woolworths (remember them?) and this would be sat there on the Embassy label for 3/6d. Right beside the Aged Cheddar.

Then !!!!....Now I need to put back all those dance styles that I delete.

My parents would buy those awful things. I guess it was the only way they'd get some 'alone time', as I would run from the room screaming every time they played them!

Mind you, there's an infamous 'lift' from one of them (some strings version by the Andrew Oldham Orchestra of Rolling Stone's 'The Last Time') by the Verve that went to #2 on the UK and #12 in the US, called Bitter Sweet Symphony, that they lost pretty much ALL the money from because, although they HAD licensed it, they were shown to have used 'too much' (quite a lot of it, actually!) and sued for plagiarism...

So maybe we shouldn't knock them THAT much!

As to raves, I'm afraid you only tend to 'get' them if you are on the same drugs that the ravers are on... Just as our parents couldn't 'get' LSD inspired music, it's tough to understand the whole rave thing until you've experienced it the way the ravers do (I haven't, BTW. I'm too old to start another bad habit!).

I know MY generation looked pretty 'mental' at Woodstock

As the man responsible for the video, I completely agree. The wersi is very poor in the backing area. This demo was not a "Dance" demo as such but a demo of the "Dance" style.
I do know what good dance music is and this is not it, BUT you do what you can with what you have.

The wersi is an organists instrument, not for dance music!
Having said that, still no news as to what is happening at the Wersi factory!

I can say that is nice demonstration WERSI. BRAVO

The right name for demonstration is party dance. But please trancers, dancers of 90 and 00 wrc. This is total different planet. We know that today are different solutions of new tracks. I know that also WERSI is possible to make this kind of music.



I like Diki's response. He is having every time to say some "nice" words. Where are your demos Diki?

I've put up enough at R-A.com that everyone can get a basic idea of what my G70 and my playing sounds like. More of the same isn't really necessary, IMO. I've posted sufficient to make my point.

You might try Googling Micheal J Thomas's album City Beat to hear some of my commercial work. Most of the keyboard tracks are G70 except strings, I think. Rhythm section is real, though. Just like I like it!

But I still stand by my comment about the Wersi video being an organist's interpretation of 'dance' music. It's great playing, Jazzhooves, but I am convinced that the same style, with some tweaks to reduce the reverb and bump the drums up to REAL dance levels, and some more adventurous lead sounds (after all, if you can play VSTi's on the thing, there's a BOATLOAD of cutting edge lead sounds out there) would show off the Abacus to its' full potential.

In modern music, the devil is in the details...

Got it. So here's my plan. I'm going to finance my own concert featuring the PA1X playing the most boring USER pattern from the previous generation KB, making sure the BPM is at least 160 or above, that no more than two chords are used, that the variation is never changed, that no fills or breaks are used, and that the strobes are synced to the midi clock. This will all be happening as I read a few verses from 'The Raven' by Edgar Allan Poe through the biggest, loudest, PA system available. I will wear my normal attire which should be enough to make me sufficiently weird to the 18-25 year olds that will be my target audience. I will pass out a 'joint' and a candle to each paying customer and we will guarantee that no one leaves without permanent hearing loss.

If this works out, I'll be sending future posts from my private jet with 'I....LOVE.....ROCK & ROLLLLL...' blasting in the background.

chas

Chas! Go for it, dude! You'll be HUGE! Er . . . maybe not.

Wrong drug to hand out at a rave, chas Who can listen to 140bpm when stoned..?

If you want a more relevant comparison, remember the fifties and its' love affair with uppers, dexies, and fast, insanely fast bebop? Our grandparents, from the scotch and swing generation probably looked at our parents doing that (well, OK... at least MY generation's parents ) with exactly the same puzzlement. Who can dance to THAT? Bird and Dizzy (got that last name right!) spinning it out faster than anyone ever had... Hip beatsters snappin' their fingers. Hep, baby!

Thing about rave music is, just like rap, it all SEEMS simple until you try to do it. Then the dancers (or lack of them) let you know EXACTLY how far off base you are..! If you don't understand it, don't critique it (at least, that's what I told MY parents when they heard the Rolling Stones ).

And the wheels keep on turning...

Yes Faithless make great Dance Music. My all time favorite dance song is from the 90's by DJ BoBo called Everybody: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0JrmT3FjBE


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