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#282021 - 02/23/10 11:01 AM Re: Next AUDYA61 and AUDYA Module... How much memory???
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
Posts: 3131
64mb RAM is not useable

its about 48+/1 MB fro right hand sounds

you load the super piano and you have room for about 2 or 3 more sounds currently

with 256 MB i'm not sure you even be able to load all super sounds in AUDYA,

WE NEED 1GB !!!

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#282022 - 02/23/10 11:27 AM Re: Next AUDYA61 and AUDYA Module... How much memory???
mc Offline
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I never needed to load anymore sounds than what the keyboard already had, with any brand. I remember the X1 had the super solos on a drive, but they were no need, the interal sounds were more than enough. so whether its 48mb or 10G , it does not matter to me, I will never use it.
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#282023 - 02/23/10 11:48 AM Re: Next AUDYA61 and AUDYA Module... How much memory???
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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mc,

i don't think you undersatnd

the super voices, even though are in the AUDYA, you CAN'T play UNLESS you load them to RAM

so even though they are on HD, they have to be loaded,

so what i am saying is you can only load a FEW Super Sounds, that's it, them the RAM is FULL

so when you power up AUDYA you can only have let's say your favorite 4 sounds out of however many are in AUDYA, lets say 24...

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#282024 - 02/23/10 01:09 PM Re: Next AUDYA61 and AUDYA Module... How much memory???
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14245
Loc: NW Florida
I'm still waiting to hear much music where a significantly better RH voice would make much of a difference. It's still 95% what you play and 5% the sound you play it on

There's still one potential roadblock to all your technolust for GB sized RAM figures... how fast does it load up? From what I remember seeing posted here, while the Audya is still fairly fast at loading ROM samples compared to Tyros or PA2's, it's still going to be a significant wait to load up a GB+. How long you got between songs? Or before you can start your gig? And don't forget that UPS.... one brown out, and suddenly the audience got to wait 10 minutes+ for you to be ready again?

Honestly, none of you are going to be happy until the Audya has the same kind of memory performance that a computer does. And it never will. So why not simply get a Muse Receptor (there's a new cheaper one coming out soon) or a V-Machine, MIDI it to the Audya, and get your Supersounds from that? You'll definitely get it working faster than Ketron will...
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#282025 - 02/23/10 01:25 PM Re: Next AUDYA61 and AUDYA Module... How much memory???
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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Diki and gang,

i don't know about the rest of you
but i have a real sound system to setup (no l;ogitech) (300+ people), sometimes 600+ in a hall
which takes about 1 hour to setup

so yes i have time to get to a gig, turn on AUDYA, and load all 1GB, and plug into a UPS

so yes, i WANT 1GB RAM

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#282026 - 02/23/10 04:42 PM Re: Next AUDYA61 and AUDYA Module... How much memory???
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14245
Loc: NW Florida
Well, dream on..!

Personally, I think you are setting yourself up with yet another excuse to NOT buy an Audya. But sooner or later, you have to come to the realization that EVERY arranger out there has SOMETHING that could be better. What are you using now? Does it have a GB of RAM? I doubt it.

Yet you still use it...

Bet you it doesn't have USB3, either.

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 02-23-2010).]
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#282027 - 02/23/10 05:05 PM Re: Next AUDYA61 and AUDYA Module... How much memory???
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Personally, I think you are setting yourself up with yet another excuse to NOT buy an Audya.


Diki,

i own a KETRON already, do you?
i love the Ketron sound
do you own Ketron?
i rest my case

ps i also have the G-70

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#282028 - 02/24/10 02:01 AM Re: Next AUDYA61 and AUDYA Module... How much memory???
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14245
Loc: NW Florida
I know you own a Ketron... but amazed you want to play it, if a lack of a GB sized RAM is enough to keep you away from the Audya

You enjoy your current Ketron for what it is, rather than what it could be better at. Why not enjoy the Audya for the same reasons..? It's never going to have everything you want. Nothing ever does. But if it beats your current Ketron by quite a bit, why isn't simply that sufficient? I'm sure you didn't hang around when your current Ketron came out going 'it's only got USB1' (if that), or there's no sampler, etc., etc.. You bought it for what it DID...

Me, I'd quite like an Audya to take for a spin, but I think I'll wait a couple of years and buy one s/h when the price returns to something closer to reality.. In the meantime, I'm just happy I have an arranger where you don't NEED to load up a decent piano in RAM. The onboard one is quite sufficient for me! Plus an extra 64MB SRX ROM tones that is always instantly available makes more sense to me than a sampler you never, in the heat of gigging, have time to load up.

I still think adding a V-Machine or Musebox is the more flexible way of adding sounds, if the arranger's MIDI capabilities are capable of addressing it correctly.
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#282029 - 02/24/10 03:11 AM Re: Next AUDYA61 and AUDYA Module... How much memory???
Irishacts Offline
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Registered: 11/18/01
Posts: 1631
Loc: Ireland
Hi Diki.

There's nothing wrong with people wanting the same features found in other keyboards added to their own favourite brand.

Ketron's strengths are in producing keyboards that have sounds and styles that are both very good. Beyond that they are trailing very far behind when it comes to core features you would expect that would be standard on every keyboard at this stage.

This is where the Audya stick out. It's their only premium priced keyboard, but it does not have the features to justify the price when compared to what the competition are doing for far less money.

Someone wanting 1GB of RAM in a new and premium priced keyboards is not unreasonable. There are keyboards out there that already have 1GB and are not premium priced keyboards.

A proper sampler with a good amount of RAM is a very important thing. You might not realise just how much so because it's probably not important to you, but anyone who has started using Samples would never be able to turn around now and do without them.

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I still think adding a V-Machine or Musebox is the more flexible way of adding sounds, if the arranger's MIDI capabilities are capable of addressing it correctly.


Nothing at all wrong with a V-Machine or Musebox, but the ownership of the problem shouldn't be simply passed onto someone else.

There is no substitute to having the sounds inside the keyboard your playing.

Cheers
James

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#282030 - 02/24/10 06:48 AM Re: Next AUDYA61 and AUDYA Module... How much memory???
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
Posts: 3131
James,

i agree 100%
for a keyboard coming out "today"
not having AT LEAST 1GB is pathetic,

Diki, you also have to understand that not everyone will use this AUDYA live, so LOAD time WILL NOT be an issue

256MB is an insanely SMALL upgrade

the current AUDYA should have had the 256MB,

the next AUDYA should have 1 or 2GB

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