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#272465 - 10/01/09 01:31 PM
Re: Rude or stupid sales people.
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Originally posted by DonM: One thing that hinders local music store sales is that they must charge state sales tax, when most of the internet vendors to do not. This adds another 8 percent or so that the store can't get around paying, even if they match the internet prices. I'm sure most folks already know this, but just because you are not charged tax when purchasing from an online retailer, that does not make the purchase 'tax free'. The purchaser is supposed to turn in the appropriate sales tax on the purchase to their state. State sales taxes pay for many things, some of which you may agree with and some of which you may not. But the fact is when buying online from out-of-state, and if you are not submitting the appropriate tax payment to your state, then you are not only hurting a local music store dealer, but you are also hurting the school system, road maintenance, police force, etc. There was talk a while back about taxing online sales. But putting that into effect would be a nightmare on the accounting departments of the online retailers in order to make sure that right state gets the right amount of money. Then again, what do I care if they have to spend a little more of their profits. Dave ------------------ Wm. David McMahan LearnMyKeyboard JazzItUp Band The Modulators
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#272467 - 10/01/09 03:21 PM
Re: Rude or stupid sales people.
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Registered: 05/16/08
Posts: 307
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia, USA
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The large outlets aren't "offered deals" to get those better prices. They simply exploit the law of supply and demand. If they have the cout to order thousands of a single item, they can demand a volume discount. The local retailer cannot do that, must purchase wholesale inventory at a much higher rate at much lower volume.
Timely subject, the local radio stations here are airing an ad for The Guitar Sinner outlets around these parts where they have installed online internet computers instore and the deal is that if the customer can get online and find a lower price for any item in the store, they will beat it.
Me, I'm waiting for the story of the kid that creates a website with a much lowered price for a high priced item, surfs to it instore and manages to convince the sales geeks to sell him something expensive for next to nothing. C'mon, you know its gonna happen...
--Mac
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"Keep listening. Never become so self-important that you can't listen to other players. Live cleanly....Do right....You can improve as a player by improving as a person. It's a duty we owe to ourselves." --John Coltrane
"You don't know what you like, you like what you know. In order to know what you like, you have to know everything." --Branford Marsalis
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#272470 - 10/01/09 06:05 PM
Re: Rude or stupid sales people.
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 2204
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Originally posted by captain Russ: Stupid like a fox! My friend who died 5 years ago was the owner of the most successful music store in the city. He was a big band trumpet player. He, his wife and the owners of the other two popular music stores all worked together for 10 years at a large local store. When they started their stores, they all agreed to divide up the business. My friend did not stock and sell horns; he specialized in guitars and PA. His one friend did horns and the other specialized in keyboards. Thing is, he never learned a thing about stringed instruments. He would take an instrument down, run a had across the strings without touching the neck and say....WONDERFUL!, and hand the instrument to the customer. In 40 years, he never learned more, but what a salesman!
I ordered a red Guild hollow body. He called and said the thing was in. When I went to pick it up, it was sunburst. When I called that to his attention, he said, "I don't think so. That's a new Guild red." Then, he took me and the guitar over to a window and turned it several times to let the sunlight bounce off of it. Damn if he didn't convince me that it was some kind of proprietary red.
Two days later, the red one came in. I kept the sunburst one, played it for 40 years, and at his funeral, his son told the tale of his dad, the GREAT SALESMAN and Russ's red guitar!
I took it back to the store, where, for a year, it hung on a hook in the most visible place there, with a sign saying "Russ's famous red guitar".
Dumn salesman or dumn customer? You decide!
Russ (colorblind) Lay
[This message has been edited by captain Russ (edited 09-30-2009).] Haha, Russ, that is a great story, I tell ya!
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#272471 - 10/02/09 07:14 AM
Re: Rude or stupid sales people.
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Registered: 05/16/08
Posts: 307
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia, USA
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...there were many times, normally a month or so before NAMM that one of these mass retailer would advertise a crazy low price on what we thought was still a current product only to find out later (many times having just ordered some at regular price) that it had been discontinued and the remaining inventory was sold in total at a huge discount to the mass retailer. The independent dealers were not even given the chance to purchase... Well, Dave, whether it is palatable or not this exanmple is still the law of supply and demand at work. The large outfit made a buy that nobody else could and cornered the remaining inventory. Presumably the buy was large enough to invoke the deep discount quantity price, which was likely influenced by the unit closeout, no doubt, but still indiciative of the way the free market works. For good or ill, today's marketing concepts have changed, we must be able to adapt to the paradigm shift. It has already happened. --Mac
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"Keep listening. Never become so self-important that you can't listen to other players. Live cleanly....Do right....You can improve as a player by improving as a person. It's a duty we owe to ourselves." --John Coltrane
"You don't know what you like, you like what you know. In order to know what you like, you have to know everything." --Branford Marsalis
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