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#271848 - 09/23/09 01:12 PM It's tough out there and getting tougher what have you been doing to survive?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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It's tough out there and getting tougher.
So, what have you been doing to survive?

If you have a success story, please feel free to share it with the group. Whether it be adding deejaying/karaoke to your services or new equipment to spice up your entertainment act, tell us about it.

What have you done in the last year that has made your business more profitable?

Have you touched on the kid party/school live music market.

What other music/entertainment venues are there out there? Teaching? Balloon sculpture? Face painting? Singing telegrams? Magic? etc, etc, ....I would love to hear your thoughts on this....

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#271849 - 09/23/09 02:00 PM Re: It's tough out there and getting tougher what have you been doing to survive?
Songman55 Offline
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Registered: 06/24/05
Posts: 892
Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
So far I'm holding my own. The nursing home circuit has remained pretty much the same. I thought I might be affected on Assisted Living and independent side, but all of my regulars have reuped for next year. What I am noticing though is it is taking longer to get paid. I now have to spend time in the morning chasing down my money. And nothing is handled locally, my checks come from all over the country.

My church so far is ok. Other churches have had staff cuts but we haven't. I don't know how much longer that will be as we have a new pastor that a lot of people are not happy with so they are going elsewhere. Church counts for about half of my income. If I got laid off I would immediately put an ad in the Jewish Times stating that I was available for brunches. They have been calling me for years to do brunches and I never can because of church. I'd also go after the private party circuit again. I had some really good ones this summer, but I haven't gone after that market in the last few years.

I teach a course at the local community college. I could up the antee there as well. Like I said, so far, I'm as busy as ever. What's going on with you Donny?

Joe

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#271850 - 09/23/09 02:06 PM Re: It's tough out there and getting tougher what have you been doing to survive?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
I'm doing pretty good...I play demos and do clinics for Yamaha, do the occasional restaurant gig, do some studio work, sometimes fill in for other keyboardists in local bands, and buy and sell hard to find and/or rare keyboards (mainly, Yamaha).

I have a buddy who helps with the latter...he scans estate sales, and such, and then contacts me.

You do what you have to do, and do what you seem to like and know best...usually something that really interests you.

We only get one shot at this life, and those of us who have narrowly escaped the grim reaper know this all too well...there are no time outs, no recesses, and no replays...may as well try to do what you love.

I find the years sure seem shorter after I passed 55 (I'm now 60)...is it just me?





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#271851 - 09/23/09 04:24 PM Re: It's tough out there and getting tougher what have you been doing to survive?
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 2202
Loc: Dayton, OH USA
2009 will be my busiest year ever in terms of both number of gigs and average return per gig. I am turning work away at least 3-4 times a month. Next year should be similar to this one.

One difference is I've cut back the number of Club/ lounge gigs I took this year and that's worked out great. I'm busier than ever, I'll make more money than ever and I've had more Saturday nights off than ever before.

What else am I doing different? Other than adding the Bose last Xmas, artistically nothing has changed. I still add new song material at the rate I always have, which is about 1 song per week. I've continued to work hard at stimulating the audiences as opposed to just playing for them. I hear a lot about my energy from clients. They say there's a buzz when I'm on the schedule-I don't know if they're exaggerating but that's what I hear often.

This is the greatest job I've ever had or likely ever will. Its a treat to get to do what I do every day. I'm excited to go to work and it shows, I guess.


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#271852 - 09/23/09 07:39 PM Re: It's tough out there and getting tougher what have you been doing to survive?
Songman55 Offline
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Registered: 06/24/05
Posts: 892
Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
Hi Bill,

You're right. This is the best time of our lives. I'm turning down work right and left and I'm enjoying the hell out of what I'm doing. On the right track.

Joe

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#271853 - 09/24/09 08:50 AM Re: It's tough out there and getting tougher what have you been doing to survive?
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7285
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
Turning down work, but that's because recovery from an injury is taking longer than I thought. Am limited to arranger work right now...no upright or electric bass...no guitar...no vibes...no B-3 or piano.


That really sucks, but I'm working on it.
Luckily, my day work for international manufacturers is relatively steady.

Russ

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#271854 - 09/24/09 02:42 PM Re: It's tough out there and getting tougher what have you been doing to survive?
brickboo Offline
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Registered: 02/04/01
Posts: 2071
Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
Last Thursday from 5PM to 8PM, I worked the last farmer's market in Grand Junction for the season. A big event for this town. They claim attendance in the thousands. I never get anyone to come up and offer me a gig but now and then someone will ask for a card. This time a married couple who manages one of the top 2 or 3 retirement - nursing centers came up, gave me their card, and asked me to contact them. They booked me for two gigs.
What is funny is when I first started back playing after a 25-year absence, I went to this place and they gave me the cold shoulder some years back. I am sure it was not this couple.
I have also started taking small brick gigs again. That is about all there is around here and they are far, few and in between.
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#271855 - 09/24/09 02:56 PM Re: It's tough out there and getting tougher what have you been doing to survive?
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
I simply feel that moving into areas where NO skill is needed (DJ-ing, for instance) merely opens you up to competition far in excess of what you get when doing something (like playing and singing) that VERY few people do well.

Just keep doing what others CAN'T, and you'll always be in demand.
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#271856 - 09/25/09 08:26 AM Re: It's tough out there and getting tougher what have you been doing to survive?
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7285
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
Diki is right. I do pretty well because I play jobs nobody else wants. A lot are "background" jobs; usually light jazz where I'm playing "2nd fiddle" to a piece of grilled chicken.

Don't really have much competition, because nobody else really specializes in these kinds of gigs. Lots of folks in the nursing home market.


Russ

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#271857 - 09/25/09 08:33 AM Re: It's tough out there and getting tougher what have you been doing to survive?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by captain Russ:
I do pretty well because I play jobs nobody else wants. A lot are "background" jobs; usually light jazz where I'm playing "2nd fiddle" to a piece of grilled chicken.

Don't really have much competition, because nobody else really specializes in these kinds of gigs.

Russ


I can relate, quite well, to those words, Russ.

I do very well at restaurant gigs, and at a few of them, they include a free meal, of my choosing, at the end of my gig.

With my cooking being so bad that the flies chipped in to fix the hole in the screen door, I'm happy to get a nice dinner, or supper....no dishes to wash, either.
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