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#271759 - 09/23/09 02:34 PM Re: AUDYA CRASHED..HD EMPTY..
necdetdoni Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
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Loc: Antalya / Turkey
ok..i contacted to Ketron Turkey and they will send to me a new HD (fully preloaded).. but it will come from Italy and it takes over 1 week..now i can play midi files,mp3 and waves..and also (some!!)midi sytles..but i ques there are some bad sectors on HD couse i can see some style names (from bonus styles)on the screen but when i push to button nothing happens...but some styles work corectly...i have to wait

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#271760 - 09/23/09 02:36 PM Re: AUDYA CRASHED..HD EMPTY..
Ketron_AJ Offline
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When the WRITE operation was disrupted, deleting the currupt files (usually those with strange characters) would have solved the problem.

Fomatting the HD made it worst because now you not only got rid of the unwanted files but also the needed ones (Styles, AUDIO drums, bass ... etc).

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#271761 - 09/23/09 02:50 PM Re: AUDYA CRASHED..HD EMPTY..
mc Offline
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Registered: 07/17/01
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I glad to hear the Ketron Turkey will stand behind their product. that's great news, good luck and for the next time maybe it's better to wait and seek advise before venturing off on a self repair. I also learned the hard way on a Korg ix300. I kicked the power cord and while is was performing a update. It ended up turning off and when it turned on again, I tried redoing the update, I burned the mother board. I have to say though, I send it to Korg USA and they were able to repair it free of charge after owning it for a few years.
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#271762 - 09/23/09 02:58 PM Re: AUDYA CRASHED..HD EMPTY..
necdetdoni Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 351
Loc: Antalya / Turkey
AJ.. there was only two files on hd with strange characters..one of them over 10gb and other was over 1 gb.

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#271763 - 09/23/09 03:38 PM Re: AUDYA CRASHED..HD EMPTY..
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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The trouble with interrupting a write operation is, you can often corrupt the FAT (File allocation table), which is how the the computer knows where everything is, and how big it is, etc..

Once that is out of whack, you may find the computer writing to disk sectors that already have data on them, adding to the problem (but maybe not immediately, you never know when). One never knows, so best to be safe than sorry. If it happens again, and THIS time no doubt you will have a backup ( ), I would recommend a complete reformat of the drive, to get the FAT back on track.... THEN reload the data.

Writing to a disk that has already become damaged is just too risky until it is reformatted... (IMO)
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#271764 - 09/23/09 08:40 PM Re: AUDYA CRASHED..HD EMPTY..
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
Look you guys, what is your problem about the Audya hard drive and file transfer and backing up and adding files, it’s simple. The Audya is brain-dead like most who bought one, by brain-dead I mean it does not have a full OS like a PC, no window 98,200 or XP nothing, no way of repair damage files, no way of file recovery, no SAFE MODE, no nothing, brain-dead, from the power lead on in.

When you get your Audya working properly and I say when and your happy with it if ever , then make a full backup of everything including all the hidden files, put them on a caddy or ext HD, from time to time if you feel like it make backups, especially if you make a lot of registrations etc.
If it all goes wrong on you one day and it probably will, you will be able to reformat the drive and then load on all the files you saved, switch on the God Dam thing and it will work.
Please don’t write anymore more about this it’s getting boring, this is so simple it’s untrue, and BTW if this don’t work then bin it or do like Unionguy did send it back or kick it down the stairs and claim on the home insurance, when the assessor comes round he will never believe you paid $ 5000 dollars for it so keep the receipt.

Buying a UPS if you power supply is so iffy I suppose is a bonus but hell all of the UK would be laughing if we did it our last power down was in the blitz in 1945, you need to stop installing air-conditioning its overloading your infrastructure.

Go on reply if you want I have nothing better to do, wonder if they sell UPSssss in Turkey, it’s hot there too!

BTW FAT32 was in vogue during Watergate, note what Frank did with his Audya he added another HD, you don't need to go to that lenght, doing the way I said will do and you are not hacking into your precious KB with hammers and saws


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#271765 - 09/23/09 09:04 PM Re: AUDYA CRASHED..HD EMPTY..
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
Posts: 3131
Tony,

we are all adults here
we are here to help one another
i know you don't like the AUDYA because of your past experiences with it.

i don't own an AUDYA, not yet at least
but i do find your post rather offending and disrespectful...

"The Audya is brain-dead like most who bought one"

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#271766 - 09/23/09 09:24 PM Re: AUDYA CRASHED..HD EMPTY..
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
Tony,

we are all adults here
we are here to help one another
i know you don't like the AUDYA because of your past experiences with it.

i don't own an AUDYA, not yet at least
but i do find your post rather offending and disrespectful...

"The Audya is brain-dead like most who bought one"



Leezone in the UK we have survived two world wars and it has made our sense of humor rather different that yours I presume you are USA I haven’t look at you profile, when we says some is brain-dead it’s not the way your perceive it so don’t take it literally or personal, here in the UK it’s just a figure of speech.
If you where to call me brain-dead for buying an Audya I would accept it fully, I must be so to buy the Audya, that out the way.
I am a Building Services Engineer with 45 years experience in the business, a chartered Engineer and I am good at what I do programming Building Management System, I am 66 next, I work with PCs every day of my life and I have given this advice for you all to have, that’s what this site is all about.
Just try reading in between the lines, I do when I read threads from the USA and others who try hard to type English I hope I can help those also who really struggle.

Having said all this Ketron is the ones we should all be having a go at, In the UK we tell it has it is warts and all, we no longer take any flack from anyone and companies that produce poor quality goods in the UK don’t last 10minutes.
I truly at 66 feel rather embarrassed that I have bought an Audya from a UK dealer who I have bought KB off before, he does not know where to put is face when I see him, he is has embarrassed has I am and that’s how we are over this side the pond. If you see this any differently please tell me if we should lay off Ketron , if we sent you cars form the UK like this what would you do?

Regards Tony.

Please read between the lines , Ron took my advice and sent his back in about a week he will be laughing about it and watching us wrangle with our Audya, anyway Leezone you haven’t got one you don’t know the pain and I would not wish it upon you that why I write when I don’t need to.


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[This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 09-23-2009).]
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#271767 - 09/23/09 09:37 PM Re: AUDYA CRASHED..HD EMPTY..
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
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Originally posted by necdetdoni:
First sorry for my english..i will try to tell you what happened..i was transfering a midifile from a usb stick to audya..suddenly audya stopped to responze and i had to turn of and turn on..when the audya switched on, some text and shapes on the screen were missing..I tried to play the rhythms but rhythms did not work..i tried to connect to pc via usb.it conected.. but I saw only two files with meaningless characters in audya's hd..and i tried to reload os but audya updater said to me "audya not found"..
i tried to hd format on audya..after format the folders was came back but all folders was empty even system folders!!!and screen was still corrupted...i tried one more time
os update.. worked..but after os update (2.0c) screen was same (no sliders and some missing characters)and still no styles...i reloaded Ketron styles from ketron web site, now some midi styles came back but without live gitars.
now it can play midifiles some midi styles but no audio styles and other audio files and no system files on hd..please help...

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Necdetdoni

Can you tell me has this thread helped you in any way, have you been able to get your Audya working or is it still not working.

Reagrds

Tony
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#271768 - 09/23/09 10:02 PM Re: AUDYA CRASHED..HD EMPTY..
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
Leezone,

Take a look at this and this will explain what I mean about the UK, below is an excerpt from the UK Ketron site, Unionguy wrote to the site the administrator answered Ron , it’s all below.

This is what Ron wrote in a request from D avid, that David thought Ron was still running 1.2 on his Audya

“David, I updated the Audya to 2.0C not long after I bought it. It appeared to make no difference with any of the problems I was having. AJ from Audya left a message on my phone to call him back. I'm not sure if I will or not.”

David’s answer to Ron (Uniounguy) is below, can you tell me how the statement sounds to you, I am not making fun of you or anyone, when you have sent a reply to this I will tell you how I feel about David’s reply, please reply to this it might help everyone see how things can get twisted around.


“Well AJ is the expert across the water, as witness his Youtube masterclasses.
Give him a call -what have you got to lose?
Best wishes
Dave. “


Thanks Tony



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