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#271469 - 09/19/09 11:36 AM Re: question for AJ
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
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Dave,

I agree with all of that, the problem we have (the customer) we bought the Audya in good faith not knowing how unfinsihed it was or if at all, with Ketron development comes much later, the dealers know this from the Ketrons passed but it's too late when you got it. It tosh keep saying "yes but it sound good"

Regards
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#271470 - 09/19/09 02:59 PM Re: question for AJ
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
Dave,

I agree with all of that, the problem we have (the customer) we bought the Audya in good faith not knowing how unfinsihed it was or if at all, with Ketron development comes much later, the dealers know this from the Ketrons passed but it's too late when you got it. It tosh keep saying "yes but it sound good"

Regards


I understand what you are saying. But if you and/or the dealer are already aware of a company releasing unfinished products, then whose fault is it when you buy yet another model of that brand? That is not meant to sound mean, sorry. It's just that it should be expected that an instrument will go through multiple software updates throughout the beginning of its life. Then again a lot of the fault goes to the manufacturer and its distributors for releasing specifications and features before they are actually realized. I feel a product should be advertised based on the capabilities it has at the moment the advertisement is written and not mention features that have not yet been implemented. That would solve some of the problem. The other thing that would help is for the person who purchases a product does so with the understanding that what it does at the time of purchase is good enough and does not make the purchase because of a feature that is coming.

Best Regards,

Dave

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#271471 - 09/19/09 03:11 PM Re: question for AJ
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Registered: 07/17/01
Posts: 870
Loc: New York
Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
Dave,

I agree with all of that, the problem we have (the customer) we bought the Audya in good faith not knowing how unfinsihed it was or if at all, with Ketron development comes much later, the dealers know this from the Ketrons passed but it's too late when you got it. It tosh keep saying "yes but it sound good"

Regards


I think we all agree that Audya was released too soon. But it is also up to the dealer to inform the customer of all of the features or lack of features. Also if product support is available form the dealer or the manufacture. Also it is up to the customer to research and educate themselves before making a $5000.00 purchase.

I'm sure many of the Audya problems would have come to light with a couple of hours of testing it and if the pros out weight the cons than by all means, go for it.
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#271472 - 09/19/09 09:18 PM Re: question for AJ
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
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jdx,

In the SD5 (UTILITIES-REGIS MENU) you can program/set what features you want each registration to remember (on) or ignor (off). Take note that some categories (e.g ARRANGER MODE) has a whole page of sub-features below it, however if ARRANGER MODE is set to OFF, then all it's associated sub-features are automatically IGNORRED regardless of their status!!
Your manual should have a list of the current features (OS 1.1) that are stored within a registration. Some other features are also stored within POWER ON SETUP (SAVE-POWER ON SETUP (F3)) i.e these are automatically configured when the keyboard is turned back on.

Thanks,

AJ

PS: And with regards to my standing with the following (all contract through my company, AJAM Inc.) ....

* KETRON Italy - Engineering and Style development.

* KETRON USA/CMC Dist. - PRODUCT SPECIALIST.

* OTHERS - Style development.
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#271473 - 09/19/09 11:11 PM Re: question for AJ
Nedim Offline
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Registered: 05/13/08
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Loc: Staten Island, NYC
I dont know why people bother AJ, AJ has nothing to do with Ketron Italy or anything.
He works for the US Distributor part time as Dave said, he is not responsible for the Audya
or anything that has to do with Ketron. Pretty soon he will be responsible for everything???
Even though he has noting to do with Anything???
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#271474 - 09/19/09 11:30 PM Re: question for AJ
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
Quote:
Originally posted by Nedim:
I dont know why people bother AJ, AJ has nothing to do with Ketron Italy or anything.
He works for the US Distributor part time as Dave said, he is not responsible for the Audya
or anything that has to do with Ketron. Pretty soon he will be responsible for everything???
Even though he has noting to do with Anything???


Nedim,

Got Yah,

But AJ is AJ he can speak for himself and he is good at it, he make films he's a star and when he sees a question he can answer he does, there isn't anything wrong with sharing your knowledge on this site in fact that's what it's all about. Bikes and all!

I bought and Audya and it's like when the Yanks landed a man on the moon, would they get them back to Earth, will we get the Audya fixed, don't forget Ketron in not NASA.

Regards Nedim I do respect your veiws

Tony


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#271475 - 09/20/09 04:39 AM Re: question for AJ
jdx Offline
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Registered: 09/29/04
Posts: 224
Loc: Liverpool U.K.
Hi AJ

Firstly thank you for your reply and secondly I do not think anybody here is demanding AJ's help we are simply asking a man who has product knowledge for his assistance of which we are grateful.

Having said that AJ I have already selected the features that I need to save by selecting on or off in the registration menu but it still does not save the pianist / octave/ etc.

One thing confuses me .... you say arranger mode must be turned on. I have scoured the keyboard and the manual and can not find an option to turn it on or off. The arranger mode button on the keyboard just gives a two page menu of preferences and the arranger pages 1 to 4 in the registration menu give on/off preferences for saving various features in to a registration.(which as I say I have selected but pianist/octave etc wont save)

Once again AJ any help you give us here is appreciated and I speak for myself when I say it is not taken for granted

Thank you.... JDX.

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#271476 - 09/20/09 06:07 AM Re: question for AJ
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
Just to clear up any misunderstanding, without AJ's input on this forum we would be all the less wiser, he will always answers our questions if he can and I know the manufactures should be doing this, but they don't, in fact we would not be be asking questions if the products were finished and fully operational, I hold AJ in high regard as I am sure you all do.

Regards
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#271477 - 09/21/09 02:29 PM Re: question for AJ
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
jdx,

I was refering to ARRANGER MODE under UTILITIES - REGIS MENU. The Arranger MODE section here has 3 pages of individual controls that can be set to operate with or regardless of Registration selected; but if the entire ARRANGER MODE is set to OFF, then whatever settings are within it's sub menus are also ignorred (OFF) regardless of their status - - not ARRANGER MODE (F4)!!

Let me check on PIANNIST and OCTAVE settings within the Registration!!

Hope this is clearer?

Thanks,

AJ
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Design Engineer & Product Specialist.
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#271478 - 09/22/09 12:13 AM Re: question for AJ
jdx Offline
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Registered: 09/29/04
Posts: 224
Loc: Liverpool U.K.
Hi AJ

This function is set to on.

I have spoken to someone in the UK who has an SD5 and knows it well.... and it seems that although these features (pianist/octave/harmony etc) are within the registration screen with the option to save them..... in fact it won't.

This looks like something Ketron have overlooked and the op system needs an update
which is what the shop have told me I will have to wait for.(even though this keyboard has been out for a long time now)

Can anyone else with an SD5 verify this.

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