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#271407 - 09/18/09 10:02 AM Re: Amazing videos from You Tube
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http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_ball_golf/post/Meet-the-guy-who-makes-more-per-hole-than-Tiger-?urn=golf,190463

now this is AMAZING!!!!!!!

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#271408 - 09/18/09 10:17 AM Re: Amazing videos from You Tube
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Originally posted by Dnj:
http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_...urn=golf,190463

now this is AMAZING!!!!!!!


maybe he did that because he spent time practicing golf, not music ... ...
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#271409 - 09/18/09 10:22 AM Re: Amazing videos from You Tube
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Originally posted by Dnj:
... most family units where everyone is always working or separated cannot offer a good family environment to do the things we did years ago. It's a sad new world out there for the young...



I agree with you Don. But when we were young, parents compelled their kids to learn to play an instrument,ie classical piano (not my case though), or classical ballet (for girls). My wife hates playing the piano because she was forced to learn. My kids (11 and 8 years old) haven't even got curiosity to see in detail my music equipment. We transmit them ethical and moral values but we won't force them to do what they don't want. Youth has not guidance nowadays and we'll see in the next decades what turns out of this new human change.
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#271410 - 09/18/09 11:59 AM Re: Amazing videos from You Tube
Taike Offline
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Originally posted by abacus:
You see a lot of these performers in competitions (Particularly Yamaha) and after a time they just become boring, as while technically they are brilliant, in truth they just memorise the notes (Or write their own songs) and play them as is, where as in the West, we play the song and use the notes as a guide, which is why there is much more feeling and variation in the music that is played.
Without being disrespectful or putting down their technical abilities, players like that are plentiful in those countries and once they win a competition you very seldom here of them again. (They practise to compete, not to perform)

Bill




I beg to differ, Bill.

A western audience might become bored because they expect a familiar repertoire. Asian audiences are different, I guess.

As for memorizing the notes, isn't that pretty much what we all do? Or do you mean that we leave room for improvisation? Listen to the average Electone or Stagea player (those that follow(ed) the Yamaha Music Academy course and you'll notice that what they play is usually an orchestral arrangement with lots of improvisation compared to the oomp-pah pah approach in the West. Also take notice that they usually play Japanese songs, orchestrated movie themes, own compostions, etc. So basically a repertoire favored by Asian audiences.

Don't you think Miss Qi Zhang oozes feeling and that there's a vast contrast in the piece she's playing? I doubt she could pull off such a great performance without emotion. Brett Wales looks like a wooden board compared to her.

You are right that players like her -well, not exactly at her level but very good - are plentiful in these parts. I consider myself lucky to have been taught this playing style by two of best players and tutors I've ever had the pleasure to know: Mr. Kobayashi(Japan) and Mr. Xiong (S'pore). And you're right again because whenever I play for expat acquaintances they ask me to play only songs familiar to them. I must bore them to death with orchestral and concert pieces. Ha! Ha! But I hate to play Moon River, Tico Tico or Rock Around the Clock and such on demand. Doesn't mean I dislike these songs but I abhor the oomp-pah pah arrangement they prefer to hear. Plus I am not a fan of the two-minute song. Give me a concert piece any time! I like to play what "I" like to play and how "I" like to play it. What's wrong with me wanting to play Ginga Densho, Sabre Dance (okay, they like that one), Scheherazade Symphonic Suite op.35, Orient(Yoshihiro Andoh composition)or Vierne's 'Pieces en Style Libre' - the 'Divertissement'.(Classical organ piece)?

Those that study at the many YMAs around the world know plenty of famous Asian players. Famous doesn't always equal being a household name, right?

Here are a couple of Asian players that are famous in Asia and well-known by many Electone players in the West as well. Most of them were winners or finalists in the Yamaha Electone Festival. So they don't all just play to compete but are established professionals that draw huge crowds.

Yayoi Hirabe
Max Takano
Yoshihiro Andoh
Elvin Ngo
Yuki Wada
...and what's the Japanese lady called again who's a star in the UK?

JMHO

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#271411 - 09/18/09 12:18 PM Re: Amazing videos from You Tube
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Originally posted by vagro:
I agree with you Don. But when we were young, parents compelled their kids to learn to play an instrument,ie classical piano (not my case though), or classical ballet (for girls). My wife hates playing the piano because she was forced to learn. My kids (11 and 8 years old) haven't even got curiosity to see in detail my music equipment. We transmit them ethical and moral values but we won't force them to do what they don't want. Youth has not guidance nowadays and we'll see in the next decades what turns out of this new human change.


I understand what your saying.....but remember...back then there wasn't all the alternatives.....& children actually listened to their parents I started at age 7 & have never looked back 51 years later!

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#271412 - 09/18/09 12:18 PM Re: Amazing videos from You Tube
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Originally posted by Taike:

...and what's the Japanese lady called again who's a star in the UK?

JMHO

Regards

Taike


http://www.organfax.co.uk/players/chiho/
and came to the fore with Max Takano, who we hear little of these days.
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#271413 - 09/18/09 12:43 PM Re: Amazing videos from You Tube
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
kids today have to many alternatives msic wise vs learning to play an instrument which to them is "TO HARD"...on top of that most family units where everyone is always working or separated cannot offer a good family environment to do the things we did years ago. It's a sad new world out there for the young.



Oh, please,... stop living in the past. If things really as bad as you describe then I'd already hung myself. Give young people some credit. You act like you and your generation is the last of the great ones. Geez! Go out, spread your wings and you'll find many amazing young musicians with tons of talent and tons of determination to master an instrument.

The only sad thing is people like you that give up on them without even knowing them or to acknowledge their talents.

A second-rate player playing a song about waving a napkin!!! (for crying out loud) is a "talent" in your eyes. You call that "great entertainment". "TOO (yes, that's how it's spelled) HARD" for them to master an instrument? Plenty of these kids outplay you.

Things must be pretty bad where you're living. Music schools must all have been boarded up, the New Jersey Symphony Orchestra will be giving its last (perhaps already happened) performance since they can't find any young players (too hard for them to master an instrument).

Plenty of talent here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8cvKImVadE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUx4t4W4eVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaDea5spQTc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLWjvKvZYdg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FsQMEEsYYM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wam-oMub8EU&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-wdwpeK4ug&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuQVs2Ch1LY&feature=related

and there are many many more...
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#271414 - 09/18/09 12:46 PM Re: Amazing videos from You Tube
Taike Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by abacus:
Quote:
Originally posted by Taike:
[b]
...and what's the Japanese lady called again who's a star in the UK?

JMHO

Regards

Taike


http://www.organfax.co.uk/players/chiho/
and came to the fore with Max Takano, who we hear little of these days.
Regards

Bill[/B]


Thanks, Bill. That's the one.

Max was in Taiwan not too long ago, so I heard.

Regards

Taike
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#271415 - 09/21/09 01:19 PM Re: Amazing videos from You Tube
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All very nice, but here's what to aspire to - forty something year old guy showing how to play a Rhodes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E-SyDGStcU
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#271416 - 09/21/09 03:03 PM Re: Amazing videos from You Tube
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That was nice Rhodes work...here is the same guy doing the same tune solo piano.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BW1uGEtk-s&NR=1
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