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#265383 - 05/28/09 01:09 PM and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
leezone Offline
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loving it...thank you for sharing

these styles are VERY useful for my kinda stuff... no prices set yet

check em out, they've done about 300 of them
there are 60 you can listen to
lots are based on popular songs,
so i assume they have intros recorded, etc.

the ones i like that stood out are:
#1, 3, 15, 19, 20, 28, 33, 35, 43, 46, 54

and all the without the style editor ;-)
imagine when that drops with OS3
http://www.fcmusica.com/shop/?en_ketron-audya-ritmos-fcmusica,202

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#265384 - 05/28/09 01:12 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
leezone Offline
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and thank you FCMUSICA for the GREAT sound quality on the demos

this is the way ALL demos should be

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#265385 - 05/28/09 01:44 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
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Is it just me, but is the accolades for this because the styles are something that is not available elsewhere, rather than how high the musicality, realism and production is?

Sadly, to my ears, the sounds themselves on these demos, the drum kit samples, the guitars (all MIDI), the horns, you name it, don't sound anywhere NEAR as good as many of the ROM styles. In fact, sorry, but my G70 FRIES those drums for realism and dynamics. And the guitars are a pale shadow of Yamaha or Korg. Horns, blatty and unrealistic, etc., etc.. But the RHYTHMS....? Unique.

I think, more and more, I am beginning to see that people don't rave about an arranger for what it basically sounds like, or what it's OS can (or cannot!) do. They just like the styles. If an arranger has styles in it that nothing else has, it is GREAT (no matter how poor those styles actually SOUND). If it doesn't, it ain't!

These styles have the RHYTHMS that people performing this music want. And that, it appears, is a LOT more important than the sound...
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#265386 - 05/28/09 01:52 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
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Here we go . .. ...

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#265387 - 05/28/09 02:12 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
leezone Offline
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DIKI,

you say: "the guitars (all MIDI), the horns, you name it, don't sound anywhere NEAR as good as many of the ROM styles. In fact, sorry, but my G70 FRIES those drums for realism and dynamics. And the guitars are a pale shadow of Yamaha or Korg...

i would like you to re-listen to FCMUSICA demo 19, 33, 35, 43

THEN

i challenge or dare you to post a MORE realistic sounding guitar accompaniment from your G-70 or ANY other Arranger be it Yamaha, Korg, etc.

ALSO, the G-70 drums do not FRY these AUDYA... i too own a G-70 you know...

so let's hear YOUR ideal guitar accomp. and see who FRIES who...

patiently waiting

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#265388 - 05/28/09 02:28 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
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Lee, the audio drums on the Audya are the bellwether for realism. 'Cause they are REAL

But all these styles use the MIDI kits. Perhaps it is personal preference (how can ANY of us avoid that? ) but I don't hear the dynamics and timbral change that the G70 has. Maybe that's a result of the programming, maybe not. But I can hear it quite well.

Note also that I did NOT compare the guitars to Roland's. My views on those are well known. I compared THOSE to Yamaha's, whose Mega voice style guitars have yet to be bettered IMO. Even Audya's audio guitars suffer from changing to MIDI for many much used chords, so IMO, better even than those.

And no, I didn't, I think, listen to those syles you mentioned. After about five or more of them, I think I had enough for a general impression. Mea culpa. Next time anyone posts 60 polka styles (or anything you wouldn't ever use) I expect you to listen to them ALL before a comment, OK?

Oh, and Donny . .. ...

Why not use colons instead of commas for your usual non-comment? Closer to the actual part of your anatomy this level of discourse is coming from, I might hazard...
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#265389 - 05/28/09 02:30 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
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Oops! My bad...

Those are periods, not commas. Perhaps you HAVE got it right after all...
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#265390 - 05/28/09 02:37 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
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So I guess I will not a be hearing any other arranger's guitar accomp that can FRY the Audya's audio guitar accomp. ???

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#265391 - 05/28/09 02:44 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
leezone Offline
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Oh and none of those 60 styles or the 300 they have available are Polkas. This is Portugal not Poland....

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#265392 - 05/28/09 04:09 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
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There are some nice styles there....but number 17...is that out of tune on purpose...Is there a special tuning to this type of music?
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#265393 - 05/28/09 04:23 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
frankieve Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
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Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
and thank you FCMUSICA for the GREAT sound quality on the demos

this is the way ALL demos should be


wow, thanks for the backhand
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#265394 - 05/28/09 04:42 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
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Loc: New York
Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
There are some nice styles there....but number 17...is that out of tune on purpose...Is there a special tuning to this type of music?


After listening to again it seems that there is one note out of tune.

But here is just a brief description of some Portuguese culture. This style is called “fado”. It is traditional folk music that dates back well over 100 years. The fado music is the heart of Portugal. It is played with the Portuguese guitar and other acoustic guitars. But it is the Portuguese guitar that gives it the mandolin type of sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMKQFXn9WiM
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#265395 - 05/28/09 08:15 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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Frank,

i was not referring to yours,
yours are very good and much appreciated

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#265396 - 05/28/09 11:37 PM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
Diki Online   content


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14201
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
Oh and none of those 60 styles or the 300 they have available are Polkas. This is Portugal not Poland....


Exactly my point... for those of us in the West, little of these styles are of much use, either. Probably about as much use to me as polkas are to you. So I'm not going to subject myself to listening to them ALL, in the hope that one might be a bit better than the rest. The first few were pretty lackluster, even by G70 standards.

Just curious, but why is it that only SOME of them rise to even your expectations? Let's face it, you only got enthusiastic about a few... Maybe the drums got better later on, maybe they didn't. Only a few got your nod of approval for the guitars, got anything that makes better use of the drums?

All I'm trying to say is, style nonetheless, without the Live Drums, these sounded no better than I have heard in many other FAR less expensive arrangers. That is, IF YOU DISREGARD THE STYLE, and merely concentrate on the SOUND and programming....

Does anyone NOT from Portugal feel that these styles represent any giant step forward?
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#265397 - 05/29/09 02:09 AM Re: and now...more AUDYA styles & rhythms prepared by FCMUSICA for Portuguese Music
frankieve Offline
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I think it's great that a Genre of music is being represented and styles that areauhentic sounding are being made.

But like Diki said, unless these were done for all types of music by people who know that music, it will only help a handful of us.

It's also great that there are new styles that are being released for a relatively "new" keyboard.

hopefully we will see more styles that include the live audio from others once the style creation tool is made/released,....hopefully

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