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#263828 - 05/19/09 06:24 PM Re: Korg PA-588
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Originally posted by Diki:
The action of a P85, the innards of an S900... how easy would it be to sell a boatload of those?


Yes, I have expressed that many times, here, and to Yamaha as well.

And, I think it could be done and still keep the weight around 30 lbs.

I know they'd get my money right away.

And, yes, I could sell a boatload of them around here.

Funny Roland hasn't picked up on it as well.

Ian

[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 05-19-2009).]
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#263829 - 05/19/09 06:38 PM Re: Korg PA-588
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Ian,

the styles on the 588 are the same as 800/2x. There may be a small number missing because of the lack of DNC. As far as the piano goes, he should be able to get an acceptable sound with tweaking the 16 available oscialtors. Considering that Korg had the piano player in mind with this instrument, I believe they included some high quality sounds not available on the 500/800/2x. One thing I would check, would be the sound when main outputs are used. On the Korg forum some users complained about the low output level on the PA-500.

See the link: http://korgpa.com/pa_root/en/products/pa588_info.html?en

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#263830 - 05/19/09 06:40 PM Re: Korg PA-588
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Funny Roland hasn't picked up on it as well.


They must be trying to copy the market leader...

They do the KR series and the VIMA's, so they have the heavy 88 thing down. Well, SOMEONE has got to do it, and Yamaha have the OS and SA edge. Maybe they wait to see how well the 588 does? Still not the price point that would work, I don't think (got the money for that, you've got enough for something better, but with 76, not 88, too).

Glad to hear that I'm not the only one p*ssing into the wind, though Time Yamaha realized that the DGX is NOT what most are looking for... too dumbed down to attract the experienced arranger player that wants a piano action, IMO
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#263831 - 05/19/09 06:50 PM Re: Korg PA-588
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Originally posted by Diki:
Time Yamaha realized that the DGX is NOT what most are looking for... too dumbed down to attract the experienced arranger player that wants a piano action, IMO


Yeah, perhaps the "dumbed down" DGX is not what you, or other pros are looking for, but it sells very well...it is considered a piano based arranger as opposed to an arranger based piano, so the auto functions aren't emphasized.

I think they'd do remarkably well putting the S900's or even the S700 arranger engine in a DGX...the R&D for the former are probably already paid for, so it would be a natural, and give the DGX an even bigger edge against it's rival..the market is pretty well dominated by Yamaha and Casio, so it's very competitive.
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#263832 - 05/19/09 06:53 PM Re: Korg PA-588
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by hitman:
Ian,

the styles on the 588 are the same as 800/2x. There may be a small number missing because of the lack of DNC. As far as the piano goes, he should be able to get an acceptable sound with tweaking the 16 available oscialtors. Considering that Korg had the piano player in mind with this instrument, I believe they included some high quality sounds not available on the 500/800/2x. One thing I would check, would be the sound when main outputs are used. On the Korg forum some users complained about the low output level on the PA-500.

See the link: http://korgpa.com/pa_root/en/products/pa588_info.html?en



Thanks very much, Hitman, I will send him the link for this thread tonight.

I appreciate your help....I think he will end up going to test it come the weekend.

Ian
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#263833 - 05/19/09 06:59 PM Re: Korg PA-588
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Just as I wouldn't want a Yamaha without any SA voices in it, I am not sure I would go for a Korg without OS2's DNC...

But at least it DOES have the Guitar Mode from the PA800/2Xpro...
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#263834 - 05/19/09 07:00 PM Re: Korg PA-588
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#263835 - 05/19/09 07:11 PM Re: Korg PA-588
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What a doofus! Makes a demo where you can't hear the keyboard AT ALL, and then Sweetwater actually go ahead and post it!

Come to think of it, plenty of doofusness to go around!

Have things really sunk so low? Is this the best that these guys can manage? Korg, Sweetwater...

Call me!
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#263836 - 05/19/09 07:16 PM Re: Korg PA-588
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#263837 - 05/19/09 07:29 PM Re: Korg PA-588
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by Diki:
Just as I wouldn't want a Yamaha without any SA voices in it, I am not sure I would go for a Korg without OS2's DNC...


Again they are your preferences, not every one's. My buddy would just be happy to have an arranger with a piano that sounds (and feels) better than the one in the G-1000...the great styles are a plus.

The price for the 588 is real sweet, so I'd be very surprised he doesn't buy it.
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