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#262985 - 05/09/09 06:42 PM Roland VR760 and VK-8M
KINDSHOWS Offline
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Hello I have several questions I hope somebody can shed some light. In one situation I would like to use VR760, VK-8M MIDIed through another keyboard. How can I use a foot switch to control the rotary speaker fast and slow om bot units during the times I want to use them as a double manual draw bar organ?
In another case if I fully expand the VR 760 with the SRX cards can I layer sounds from both cards? Can I also use the "on board" sounds together as well with the SRX sounds? Can I also modify the SRX sounds save them to a registration? One more question if I split the keyboard can I layer each of the splits? Thanks

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#262986 - 05/11/09 01:16 PM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
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It's been a while since I owned my VR-76, but I would think that if you connected the footswitch to the VR and midi'd the keyboard to a controller, then you could switch the leslie speed that way.

As for your other questions, I don't think you can use any two SRX sounds at the same time, as you are limited by using the synth section just once, correct? If that is so, then the answer to the other questions is NO.

Do you have a manual? If not I think I have a PDF and some other stuff.
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#262987 - 05/11/09 01:44 PM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
KINDSHOWS Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by cassp:
It's been a while since I owned my VR-76, but I would think that if you connected the footswitch to the VR and midi'd the keyboard to a controller, then you could switch the leslie speed that way.

As for your other questions, I don't think you can use any two SRX sounds at the same time, as you are limited by using the synth section just once, correct? If that is so, then the answer to the other questions is NO.

Do you have a manual? If not I think I have a PDF and some other stuff.


Hello I have a manual on both instruments but they are not much help on the rotary fast/slow switching. I have tried MIDI and pedal assignments on the controlling unit with no help.
I was also wondering if I split the keyboard if I can also add different layering to each split?

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#262988 - 05/11/09 06:27 PM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
kbrkr Offline
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HI Kindshows,

The VK8M is unable to trigger the Leslie from a footswitch. I'm not sure about the VR 760 or not.
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#262989 - 05/11/09 07:34 PM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
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Loc: NW Florida
From the VK-8M manual...


General Purpose Controller 5 (Controller number 80) (Rotary Speed)
Status 2nd byte 3rd byte
BnH 50H vvH
n = MIDI channel number: 0H - FH (ch.1 - ch.16)
vv = control value: 00H - 7FH (0 - 127)
* When MIDI IN FUNCTION is SINGLE KEYBOARD MODE (p. 20), this is received on
the channel specified for CONTROL MIDI CH. (p. 46) (factory setting: channel 1).
* Not received when MIDI GENERAL CONTROLLERS SWITCH (p. 45) is OFF.

General Purpose Controller 6 (Controller number 81) (Rotary Brake)
Status 2nd byte 3rd byte
BnH 51H vvH
n = MIDI channel number: 0H - FH (ch.1 - ch.16)
vv = control value: 00H - 7FH (0 - 127) 0-63 = SPIN, 64-127 = BRAKE
* When MIDI IN FUNCTION is SINGLE KEYBOARD MODE (p. 20), this is received on
the channel specified for CONTROL MIDI CH. (p. 46) (factory setting: channel 1).
* Not received when MIDI GENERAL CONTROLLERS SWITCH (p. 45) is OFF.

It appears you need to send MIDI controller cc#80 to get F/S Leslie control
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#262990 - 05/12/09 04:29 AM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
kbrkr Offline
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Thanks for clarifying Diki; thorough as usual.

I meant to say a standard foot switch...
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#262991 - 03/30/10 04:10 PM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
dgcilil Offline
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Registered: 03/30/10
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I've found a solution for the footswitch issue with the Roland VK-8m organ module. MIDI SOLUTIONS has a product called MIDI FOOTSWITCH CONTROLLER. I've got one. It works great! Go to their site www.midisolutions.com and check it out.
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#262992 - 03/30/10 05:48 PM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
dgcilil Offline
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The leslie speed can be controlled with a footswitch using a MIDI SOLUTIONS MIDI FOOTSWITCH CONTROLLER. Check it out at www.midisolutions.com. You'll need someway of sending it a sysex message to program it. I have one and it works great!



[This message has been edited by dgcilil (edited 03-31-2010).]
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#262993 - 03/31/10 04:26 AM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
dgcilil Offline
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Registered: 03/30/10
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Loc: Normal, IL USA
The leslie speed can be controlled with a footswitch using a MIDI SOLUTIONS MIDI FOOTSWITCH CONTROLLER. Check it out at www.midisolutions.com. You'll need someway of sending it a sysex message to program it. I have one and it works great!
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#262994 - 03/31/10 10:00 AM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
Fran Carango Offline
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I keep one oh these around, just for this fix and other fixes too.....


Anatek Pocket Pedal
•Sends on multiple MIDI channels
•Sends pitch-bend, modulation, portamento time, and MIDI Volume
•Supports 1 continuous controller
•Supports 1 momentary footswitch
•Sends sustain, portamento on/on, sostenuto, and start/stop
•Auto pedal/footswitch calibration
•Forward/Reverse pedal operation
•3 mode pitch-bend operation

more
1994 List Price $99.00

Pocket Pedal is an indispensable controller for the performing musician. With the addition of any volume pedal and footswitch, keyboard 8 guitar-synth players can send MIDI volume, modulation, and sustain controls on all 16 MIDI channels at the same time. For owners of muiti-effects processors, Pocket Pedal" provides a convenient and cost effective way of providing dynamic control over effects parameters. Pocket Pedal" is a handy controller for automated mixdowns - converting any resistive input into MIDI Controller messages for VCAs. Connect a photocell to Pocket Pedal" and control MIDI parameters with a light source. What's more, MIDI retro-fitters can install Pocket Pedal into a guitar, home piano or organ to send pitch-bend modulation or MIDI Volume messages.
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#262995 - 03/31/10 10:02 AM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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#262996 - 03/31/10 01:19 PM Re: Roland VR760 and VK-8M
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14182
Loc: NW Florida
Hey Fran... can this send sustain (or whatever switch function you want) AND continuous controller (whatever function you want) at the same time, or is it more an either/or thing?
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