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#262483 - 05/03/09 02:24 PM Re: Ketron Audya Preview Part 1
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Just for a reminder and a wake up call to you guys and gals. If (since) the Audya has the archaic USB 1.1 specification: how can it run any VSTi's, let alone stream any audio over its USB interface?? Let's say you want to hook the Audya up to a computer via its USB and you want to transfer or load some audio data into the Audya from the computer or vice versa? Does anyone want to wait around for eternity while the audio transfers or loads? I know I wouldn't.

The Audya is also suppose to have "two" Wave/Mp3 players right? Even loading data off a thumb drive into the hard drive will take a coon's age, let alone then having to recall (load) the data "from" the hard drive back into RAM. And the RAM is soooo paltry how is it possible to load even a relatively 'moderate' amount of audio data into it at all? Which makes the Audya very live performance "unfriendly" if you ask me. I know, I know.. you can bypass the loading of data into the hard drive "prior" to the gig right? Okay, but what about 'spur of the moment' selections you might get from the audience and those selections aren't already ON the hard drive yet?? >> Excuse me ladies and gentlemen! I have to take an hour or so break .. so I can oblige and fulfill your "spur of the moment" requests that you just gave me.. Talk about nerve wracking and time consuming all wrapped up in one, eh? One one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand, four one thousand... ad infinitum (or so it seems anyway )..................... [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/mad.gif[/img] - as your audience then gets either disgusted and walks out, or the ones that happen to be left fall asleep... [img]http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/schlafen/sleeping-smiley-009.gif[/img] You choose. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/biggrin.gif[/img]

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#262484 - 05/03/09 02:38 PM Re: Ketron Audya Preview Part 1
keybplayer Offline
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Just a few things to take into consideration for all those who are considering on buying thee most expensive "beta" Arranger keyboard ever produced on the planet. Look honey! I have thee most expensive arranger keyboard ever produced! And it's still in beta too!?!?!... With a Kinko's put together beta Manual to go along with it.. Ketron should be very proud of themselves right about now. Uh... really?

All the best,
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#262485 - 05/03/09 02:50 PM Re: Ketron Audya Preview Part 1
DanO1 Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by keybplayer:
Just for a reminder and a wake up call to you guys and gals. If (since) the Audya has the archaic USB 1.1 specification: how can it run any VSTi's, let alone stream any audio over its USB interface?? Let's say you want to hook the Audya up to a computer via its USB and you want to transfer or load some audio data into the Audya from the computer or vice versa? Does anyone want to wait around for eternity while the audio transfers or loads? I know I wouldn't.

The Audya is also suppose to have "two" Wave/Mp3 players right? Even loading data off a thumb drive into the hard drive will take a coon's age, let alone then having to recall (load) the data "from" the hard drive back into RAM. And the RAM is soooo paltry how is it possible to load even a relatively 'moderate' amount of audio data into it at all? Which makes the Audya very live performance "unfriendly" if you ask me. I know, I know.. you can bypass the loading of data into the hard drive "prior" to the gig right? Okay, but what about 'spur of the moment' selections you might get from the audience and those selections aren't already ON the hard drive yet?? >> Excuse me ladies and gentlemen! I have to take an hour or so break .. so I can oblige and fulfill your "spur of the moment" requests that you just gave me.. Talk about nerve wracking and time consuming all wrapped up in one, eh? One one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand, four one thousand... ad infinitum (or so it seems anyway )..................... [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/mad.gif[/img] - as your audience then gets either disgusted and walks out, or the ones that happen to be left fall asleep... [img]http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/schlafen/sleeping-smiley-009.gif[/img] You choose. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/biggrin.gif[/img]

All the best,
Mike


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Audya's multiple play back feature is not really new... A lot of the technology was born on the midjay. I am certain there are Midjay reviews for everyone to read to get some feedback.



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#262486 - 05/03/09 03:05 PM Re: Ketron Audya Preview Part 1
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Tell us more about the sound of Ketron vs. Yamaha, Roland and Korg...
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#262487 - 05/03/09 03:06 PM Re: Ketron Audya Preview Part 1
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#262488 - 05/03/09 03:18 PM Re: Ketron Audya Preview Part 1
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Here's what really bothers me about the Audya that most likely has a lot to do with the unreal price tag. Frank in his vid basically points out "hey look there's a MidJay inside". Ketron forces you to buy their Midjay as part of this keyboard. That unit alone (as small as it is--with no keys either) costs more than a PSR-S900.., and in some cases costs MORE than a Korg M3!!!!!!

Ketron should have kept the Midjay section as an OPTION. Take out the Midjay features on the Audya and how much do you think that price would drop? There should be two models.. one with Midjay and one without. They combine their extremely expensive Midjay unit into their top end arranger.., and slap a $5000 price tag on it.., then release it with a Kinko's inspired starter guide. Buyers then expected to drop five grand on a keyboard that doesn't even have the manual finished yet.., perhaps Ketron is still learning how to use it themselves
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#262489 - 05/03/09 03:25 PM Re: Ketron Audya Preview Part 1
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seems that the Audya is getting beat up.

I was going to go some style samples tomorrow to really show how well this machine can make music.



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#262490 - 05/03/09 03:33 PM Re: Ketron Audya Preview Part 1
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I don't think the Audya is going to really let people down in the sounds and styles department. I think many of us here agree (even those of us taking jabs at a few issues about the Audya) that Ketron does make some greating sounding gear.., and killer styles.
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#262491 - 05/03/09 04:36 PM Re: Ketron Audya Preview Part 1
DanO1 Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by squeak_D:
Here's what really bothers me about the Audya that most likely has a lot to do with the unreal price tag. Frank in his vid basically points out "hey look there's a MidJay inside". Ketron forces you to buy their Midjay as part of this keyboard. That unit alone (as small as it is--with no keys either) costs more than a PSR-S900.., and in some cases costs MORE than a Korg M3!!!!!!

Ketron should have kept the Midjay section as an OPTION. Take out the Midjay features on the Audya and how much do you think that price would drop? There should be two models.. one with Midjay and one without. They combine their extremely expensive Midjay unit into their top end arranger.., and slap a $5000 price tag on it.., then release it with a Kinko's inspired starter guide. Buyers then expected to drop five grand on a keyboard that doesn't even have the manual finished yet.., perhaps Ketron is still learning how to use it themselves


This is valid observation. Introducing a product without a manual is not a good move. But here's the deal imo, it really has everything to do with the value of the dollar more than anything else.

I know for a fact that Ketron & CMC had no intention of marketing this keyboard for $5K. I am certain the price will eventually come down if the us dollar improves.

If people think the Audya sounds better than their current product, than they will buy it.


I think the reviews about the Midjay by non arranger / professional writers of music gear publications says a lot about where the Audya came from.

They could have criticized. They could have said it sounds bad. They could have said many things, but criticize Midjay, they did not. They accually thought it was a very cool tool.
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#262492 - 05/03/09 04:59 PM Re: Ketron Audya Preview Part 1
Kingfrog Offline
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There are many micro USE SD readers that sick out less than 1/2" from the port. And some USB sticks that so the same]]
http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Pro...&ci_sku=7922251

Thats all I use any more .Those Huge Sandisks are huge and the U3 SW is a PIA and needs to be removed.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574085-REG/Sony_USM4GH_T2_4GB_Micro_Vault_Tiny. html



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