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#250515 - 12/08/08 08:14 AM
Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 584
Loc: St. James,New York,USA
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#250528 - 12/09/08 04:14 AM
Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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Originally posted by Dnj: Worldwide there are more Asians playing in Orchestras then any other.....take a look at today's Philharmonic Orchestras you'll see what I mean .......& the reason is they STUDY Music at conservatories like Julliard, etc. & have a very serious educational ethic with the opportunities offered here in the USA..... while our kids are working in McDonalds & Walmart & doped up hanging out all night in some 24 hr Greek diner....its really sad.
[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 12-08-2008).] Donny, I'm not picking on you, but, doesn't your statement imply that the aforementioned 'Asians' are all or mostly foreign-born, or somehow not American. Is a Chinese-American less American than say, an Italian-American? Naturally, my little ears perk up when I hear phrases like 'our kids' and 'Asians' (taking advantage of) "opportunities offered here in the USA". Just has a 'funky' tone to it, know what I mean? chas P.S. I've heard you make this same 'observation' in the past. I was just wondering how you were/are able to distinuish the native-borns from the foreign-borns, or do we have to look a certain way to be 'real' Americans.
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#250532 - 12/09/08 10:10 AM
Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
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Of course, when comparing these diligent Asian Americans to the shiftless slacker youth of today, does Donny label these said slackers "Italian-American" dopers, or 'Irish-American" slackers, or "German-American" lazybones, or 'Greek-American" diner addicts? I wonder why that is? Perhaps there are a FEW cultures he DOESN'T want to offend. Now all he has to figure out is WHY some cultures are OK to single out, and why some AREN'T, and he might get a handle on where his personal bias lies. Of course, that's if he is capable of admitting he HAS a personal bias! But, as much as he wants to do away with 'political correctness', let us therefore also do away with it... 'Personal bias' is politically correct. 'Racism' is the pre-PC word... Doesn't sound quite as benign, now, does it? Maybe 'politically correct' has it's place.
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