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#250525 - 12/08/08 05:44 PM Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Your hard to please Diki!!
What impressed me most? Shanghai ... China ... Jazz band!! The influence of American culture!! It just goes to show you how Important "Our" music is to the rest of the world!! Love it!!

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#250526 - 12/08/08 06:27 PM Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Timeless Billy May like - Swingin' the classics arrangement – I still have the vinyl’s.
Trombone, Philadelphia All-Catholic band, 1958-59.
Your right Donny, it was a thrill for us teens. I was starting in music at about the end of the big band era and the community bands and local pub bands were loaded with former Dorsey, Kenton, Hermann and other big band players – they all had to return home and get day jobs or combo work. Lots of great talents with lots of great stories. They are unforgettable times for me.
Ciao,
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#250527 - 12/08/08 07:54 PM Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Originally posted by JCkeeys:
Your hard to please Diki!!
What impressed me most? Shanghai ... China ... Jazz band!! The influence of American culture!! It just goes to show you how Important "Our" music is the the rest of the world!! Love it!!


Worldwide there are more Asians playing in Orchestras then any other.....take a look at today's Philharmonic Orchestras you'll see what I mean .......& the reason is they STUDY Music at conservatories like Julliard, etc. & have a very serious educational ethic with the opportunities offered here in the USA..... while our kids are working in McDonalds & Walmart & doped up hanging out all night in some 24 hr greek diner....its really sad.



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#250528 - 12/09/08 04:14 AM Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Worldwide there are more Asians playing in Orchestras then any other.....take a look at today's Philharmonic Orchestras you'll see what I mean .......& the reason is they STUDY Music at conservatories like Julliard, etc. & have a very serious educational ethic with the opportunities offered here in the USA..... while our kids are working in McDonalds & Walmart & doped up hanging out all night in some 24 hr Greek diner....its really sad.

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Donny, I'm not picking on you, but, doesn't your statement imply that the aforementioned 'Asians' are all or mostly foreign-born, or somehow not American. Is a Chinese-American less American than say, an Italian-American? Naturally, my little ears perk up when I hear phrases like 'our kids' and 'Asians' (taking advantage of) "opportunities offered here in the USA". Just has a 'funky' tone to it, know what I mean?

chas

P.S. I've heard you make this same 'observation' in the past. I was just wondering how you were/are able to distinuish the native-borns from the foreign-borns, or do we have to look a certain way to be 'real' Americans.
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#250529 - 12/09/08 05:25 AM Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Chas I'm not into stupid politically correct BS I say it like I see it....American mixed nationalities or not is not the point. These people deserve all the accolades because they have chosen a musical path & are successful plain & simple.This is just one orchestra in one city, its the same all over.
As for the kids go to your local 24 hr diner at 3am & tell me what you see.
http://nyphil.org/meet/orchestra/index.c...le&personNum=75
http://nyphil.org/meet/orchestra/index.cfm?page=profile&personNum=1168
http://nyphil.org/meet/orchestra/index.cfm?page=profile&personNum=815
http://nyphil.org/meet/orchestra/index.cfm?page=profile&personNum=1286
http://nyphil.org/meet/orchestra/index.cfm?page=profile&personNum=89
http://www.hkpo.com/eng/orchestra/our_players/index.jsp?id=27

http://www.asianyouthorchestra.com/#
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Asian_orchestras




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#250530 - 12/09/08 08:12 AM Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Loc: USA
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
I drove pass Carnegie hall one time..


I walk by it all the time when in NYC on my way to the Carnegie Deli:
http://carnegiedeli.com/index.html

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#250531 - 12/09/08 08:25 AM Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Loc: St. James,New York,USA
Donny ... I Get It!! You are right on the money brother!!

In todays world (at least in the USA) we must always be "Politically Correct". God forbid we should "Offend" someone .... Please give me a break!!!!

P.S. I know I used the word God, just for clarification I meant "Everyones" God.

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#250532 - 12/09/08 10:10 AM Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
Of course, when comparing these diligent Asian Americans to the shiftless slacker youth of today, does Donny label these said slackers "Italian-American" dopers, or 'Irish-American" slackers, or "German-American" lazybones, or 'Greek-American" diner addicts?

I wonder why that is?

Perhaps there are a FEW cultures he DOESN'T want to offend. Now all he has to figure out is WHY some cultures are OK to single out, and why some AREN'T, and he might get a handle on where his personal bias lies. Of course, that's if he is capable of admitting he HAS a personal bias!

But, as much as he wants to do away with 'political correctness', let us therefore also do away with it... 'Personal bias' is politically correct. 'Racism' is the pre-PC word... Doesn't sound quite as benign, now, does it?

Maybe 'politically correct' has it's place.
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#250533 - 12/09/08 10:18 AM Re: Shanghai Jazz Big Band
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I dont know what you people are reading between the lines but my statement is a compliment to all Asian musicians nothing more.All night Diner dopers come in all shapes & sizes look around sometime.

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