Here's a song that Dan just posted on PSR Tutorial forum using the Yamaha VH. http://www.box.net/shared/v30uy914au

DonM

He did a nice job on that...



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Bill in Dayton

Thanks Dan for your very interesting write-up on VH.
Duly downloaded and printed, this is going to bring me plenty of enjoyment in the next few days and I am sure in the next few months and years with pursuing your advice.
Your vocal demo was just fine.
cheers
Eddie Johnson

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Eddie from Rotherham
Skype:eddiefromrotherham
www.yamahakeyboards.info

PSR9000

Excellent job on that tune, Dan, and thank you for the terrific vocal harmony tips.

It proves it really can work very well with the right tweaking of settings.

I will pass them to my Yamaha clients.

Ian

Hi guys.
Thanks for your interest in The VH Primer. I hope it proves useful to you. Oh yeah, thanks for listening to my warbling - not a task taken lightly. And you said nice things, too (so far...). Thanks for that.
Keep in mind, my VH tricks are done in a somewhat controlled situation of my basement, and I have no idea how well it works live. I do regularly practice with two 12 inch wedges two feet from each ear with no problems. They're kinda like headphones.

Thanks again,
Dan

Exactly Dan....live is a BIG DIFFERENCE vs a controlled recording situation.
This is where the Big Boys TC Helicon
http://www.tc-helicon.com/products.asp

& Digitec
http://www.digitech.com/vocalist.php

surpass most for quality & portability for performing....just let your voice & ears be your guide plain & simple.

Unfortunately, I no longer have the health to gig, or I'd be playin' sax in a blues band instead of messing around with keyboards. I am considering a Harmony M if I ever get the bills caught up (probably be a Harmony Z by then ). I'd LOVE to hear a non-factory demo of one, live or multi-tracked, if you have one, Dnj. After all, I showed you mine...

Take care,
Dan
P.S. While I wave no flag for any particular manufacturer, I find your "Big Boys" comment arrogant and condescending. I would expect a stand-alone anything to far surpass any built in unit.

Yes, they are Dan, but I must say, you really made the most of the built in harmonizer...the best I've heard.

As for controlled environment, I suppose it would be similar to the situation most arranger users would be in, as after all, arrangers are primarily "home" keyboards and would be generally not be subjected to the demands of "live" stage use.

I've passed your tips on to the head guys at Yamaha Canada and they were quite pleased with your ideas.

You do fine work.

Ian

Yamaha needs to do a major VH overall plain & simple they have dropped the ball on this feature for years. Althoiugh their arrangers sound fantastic....They are on the BOTTOM of the list with VH units for sure... I hope they get their act together soon on their next series of arrangers.... meanwhile I'll use my TC Helicon & Digitech VH units which are MILES Ahead EVERY Time. Charge more but give us what we want please....

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Monitor placement is vital in getting the most out of the Yamaha harmonizer...keeping any extraneous sounds out of the microphone is very important.

I use headphones when I record vocals with my S900 and Tyros3...works very well.

Ian